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Vatican astronomer: Just a matter of time until life found in universe
cns ^ | September 19, 2014 | Dennis Sadowski

Posted on 09/21/2014 2:45:14 PM PDT by NYer

WASHINGTON (CNS) -- Jesuit Brother Guy Consolmagno, the new president of the Vatican Observatory Foundation, has no doubt that life exists elsewhere in the universe and that when humanity discovers it, the news will come as no big surprise.

He suggested that the likely discovery -- whether next month or a millennium from now -- will be received much the way that news of planets orbiting far off stars has filtered in since the 1990s.

"The general public is going to be, 'Oh, I knew that. I knew it was going to be there,'" Brother Consolmagno told Catholic News Service prior to a presentation at a NASA/Library of Congress symposium on preparing for the discovery of life in the universe Sept. 18-19.

A planetary scientist who has studied meteorites and asteroids as an astronomer with the Vatican Observatory since 1993, Brother Consolmagno said he hopes the questions about life on other planets will focus more on how humanity sees itself.

"When we say human, human as compared to what?" he asked.

While the discovery of life elsewhere will not prove nor disprove the existence of God, Brother Consolmagno expects that it will open the door to ponder what form salvation history may take in other intelligent societies.

The longtime Vatican astronomer addresses the same question and a series of others that cross the threshold between science and religion in a new book, "Would You Baptize an Extraterrestrial? ... and Other Strange Questions From the Inbox at the Vatican Observatory," set to be published in October. Co-written by Jesuit Father Paul Mueller, another Vatican Observatory astronomer, the book uses a series of easy-to-read conversations between the two in an effort to explain how the church supports science and provide insight into how religion works.

Not all is as black and white as people imagine, and there's no conflict between science and religion, Brother Consolmagno said.

"Eventually you learn that the kinds of questions you ask as a scientist and the kinds of answers you get as a scientist are only the kinds of questions that lead to more questions. They're all very contingent. Now I understand how this works, but that opens up a new mystery that I hadn't seen before and now I can explore that mystery," he explained.

"The bigger questions, the religious questions, they're handled by science. The religious questions give you the framework that gives you the motivation to ask the science questions, gives you the confidence the science is going to work and explains to you why I get this excitement at holding a rock from outer space."

The book addresses questions about the Big Bang theory on the origins of the universe and the creation story in the Book of Genesis; the circumstances surrounding the star of Bethlehem; the end of the world; and the church's inquisition of Galileo Galilei as he wrote about a sun-centered solar system.

"They're profound questions and they're real questions, but the questions aren't always what you think the words are saying," Brother Consolmagno said. "You have to dig underneath and say, 'When people are worried about what was the star of Bethlehem, they really want to know how much does God act in the universe? Did God make that star? Does God arrange things? Does God use divine coincidences?'"

Brother Consolmagno, who had an asteroid named for him in 2000 -- 4597 Consolmagno -- has long been a promoter of better understanding across what is often portrayed as the science-religion divide. He said there is no conflict between his faith life and his scientific life.

"I don't think people understand nearly well enough about being a scientist and about being a religious person, a member of a religious order or just a devout Catholic," he said. "It's fun. It's supposed to be fun. If it's not fun, you're doing it wrong. God makes himself known through joy.

"C.S. Lewis wrote about that in his book 'Surprised by Joy.' I get joy when I see a new insight into how the universe works in my very tiny field of science. I get joy along with a sense of contentment and peace in a church in prayer. I get joy when I work with the poor, when I work with students, when I work with the elderly."

In his presentation Sept. 19 bearing the same title as his new book, Brother Consolmagno suggested the idea of discovering extraterrestrial life may be so appealing to humanity, with all its pain, injustice and disease, that there is hope that "any race advanced enough to cross the stars to visit us must also be advanced enough to show us how to overcome all those human ills. They look to the aliens to be saviors of mankind."

Other symposium participants from around the world involved in searching for life on other planets addressed topics such as how society should cope with the discovery, astrobiology and theology, the moral status of non-human organisms and moving beyond preconceptions of what life is.

An avid reader of science fiction, Brother Consolmagno will receive the Carl Sagan Medal from the Division of Planetary Sciences of the American Astronomical Society in November. The award is being given for his work in communicating planetary science to the general public.

He also is planning the Vatican Observatory Foundation's first Faith and Astronomy Workshop for clergy, religious and laypeople working in parish education. Set for Jan. 19-23 in Tucson, Arizona, the workshop will give 25 participants the chance to participate in hand-on astronomical projects, join lectures and view deep sky objects at night. The application deadline is Sept. 30. Apply at www.vofoundation.org.



TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Science; Theology
KEYWORDS: astronomy; carlsagan; carlsaganmedal; fauxiantrolls; fringe; guyconsolmagno; ohsomysteriouso; panspermia; romancatholicism; science; ufo; ufos; xplanets
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1 posted on 09/21/2014 2:45:14 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 09/21/2014 2:45:35 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: NYer

God created the entire universe and if he saw fit to put life on other planets, that’s fine with me.


3 posted on 09/21/2014 2:47:02 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: NYer

He probably believes in evolution too.


4 posted on 09/21/2014 2:47:03 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: NYer

Who knows, maybe someday intelligent life will be found in the universe.


5 posted on 09/21/2014 2:49:14 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: cripplecreek

God created the entire universe and if he saw fit to put life on other planets, that’s fine with me.


And it would be fine with me, too.


6 posted on 09/21/2014 2:50:26 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: COBOL2Java

LOL Let’s hope so.


7 posted on 09/21/2014 2:51:05 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: NYer
I agree. Planets with microbial, bacterial and even simple plant life are probably numerous. When we start getting into animal life, it would be a fraction of these planets. Intelligent life, an even smaller fraction.

Still, with the sheer numbers of planetary systems that undoubtedly exist in our galaxy alone, and the sheer number of galaxies in the observable universe, I think it's pure arrogance to believe we are the only planet out of trillions upon trillions that has evolved life.

8 posted on 09/21/2014 2:52:37 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: NYer

The amazing Catholic Church - on the forefront of science from when? The 15th century?!


9 posted on 09/21/2014 2:54:43 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard III: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: NYer

I am probably one of the few people that doesn’t believe in extra terrestrial life. Yes, there are a lot of planets out there, but life is exeedingly complex and hard to spontaneously generate. If there actually is life out there, I would take that as irrefutable proof of a designer.


10 posted on 09/21/2014 2:56:35 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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Thanks NYer.
While the discovery of life elsewhere will not prove nor disprove the existence of God, Brother Consolmagno expects that it will open the door to ponder what form salvation history may take in other intelligent societies.
 
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11 posted on 09/21/2014 2:59:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Oh, man, he looks a bit creepy. Like a Church of England guy.

While the discovery of life elsewhere will not prove nor disprove the existence of God, Brother Consolmagno expects that it will open the door to ponder what form salvation history may take in other intelligent societies.

Nothing very promising yet. "Earthlike!" in the excited press release description of a newly found planet usually means "not a hot superjovian".

An avid reader of science fiction,

Well, I am too, or was. But I don't think we live in a Star Trek universe. The Fermi Paradox is a powerful argument.

12 posted on 09/21/2014 2:59:35 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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Martian converts to Catholicism...news at 11!


13 posted on 09/21/2014 3:02:35 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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-- I am probably one of the few people that doesn't believe in extra terrestrial life. --

I'm in that group with you. Those who point to the large number of stars and planets haven't combined that with the othetr side of the calculus, the probability math on life arising from inanimate chemistries.

14 posted on 09/21/2014 3:06:28 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Fungi

Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and there is no longer any sea. 2And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband.…


15 posted on 09/21/2014 3:08:33 PM PDT by EBH (And the angel poured out his cup...)
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To: NYer

The time to find that life may be more than we have, because we must transcend not just vast distances, but time itself.

As far as distances go, the closest star to ours is four light years away. Four years at the speed of light. Or two years at twice the speed of light. A year at four times the speed of light... Bottom line, you must travel at incredible speeds for even short distances. And the nearest planets that could hold any form of life at all are likely over a hundred or two hundred light years away.

So going that fast is improbable. So why not cheat and go around space? This is about the only way.

But then what?

The galaxy is roughly 13 billion years old. Humanity still doesn’t have a means of communicating with enough power to be heard much beyond our solar system. So being intelligent isn’t enough. Let us say that if we were a “modern intelligence” for 100,000 years before dying out, we could have done so 130,000 times in the life of our galaxy.

Vast civilizations, thousands of galactic empires could have risen and turned to dust before us, and we would never know. Nor they of us.


16 posted on 09/21/2014 3:13:59 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: EBH
Revelation 21:2. I was just going to post that verse. There is also another reference to a new heaven and earth and adds there was no memory of the first, implying the new one was even better(among other things). I cannot find it now. So much for all those lost species. No, that does not mean we should be careless in our dominion over the earth, but they really are not lost forever. God can bring them back in a second. The secret knowledge belongs to God, Deuteronomy 29:29.
17 posted on 09/21/2014 3:15:46 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I’m just hoping we find intelligent life on earth someday.


18 posted on 09/21/2014 3:16:21 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: cripplecreek

Agreed.


19 posted on 09/21/2014 3:16:51 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“The galaxy is roughly 13 billion years old.” Now there you go again. Prove it.


20 posted on 09/21/2014 3:17:51 PM PDT by Fungi
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