I didn’t like that “agonizing conversations” part, either. It isn’t agonizing to tell the truth. To tell them that God loves them and that Jesus is the way to freedom from their bondage.
I think the agonizing part is that they are having to deal with how to protect themselves legally from the gaystopo.
I’ve spoken with a number of pastors willing to face the consequences of continuing to preach the gospel, and who just want advice on how to handle select “couples” who come in seeking trouble.
At least within the SBC I’ve not seen any signs of capitulation on the issue.
Personally I think the church will be underground by 2025 with things continuing at such a rapid pace.
It’s too bad the public isn’t really aware that the speed in which this has been jammed down our throats is directly related to the Obama appointments to the circuit courts, AND Reid eliminating the filibuster for votes on said nominees.
If those vacancies had remained unfilled (many of which were vacant all through the Bush administration) , I have no doubt the circuits would be very split on so called gay marriage.
I know this guy who has been married to a woman for 29 years, they have a son together and this man is also having a relationship with a man. The wife knows and accepts this. This man attends church and I have had conversations with him about what the Bible says about his lifestyle and it does not seem to really phase him.
It is unfortunate that a preacher would characterize the truth as agonizing. But, these things have to happen.
This is all part of the “falling away” that God said must happen before He returns.
We could spend hours documenting the falling away in the “church”.
I ponder sometimes about the timing of my arrival and the lateness of the age. People have been looking for the Messiah for centuries upon centuries, through plagues, mongol invasions, religious wars, WWI and WWII, The murders of millions by Godless Communism, and the state sanctioned and funded genocide of the unborn, and now the mainlining of homosexual acts and homosexual marriage.
I suppose the difference is that in 1948, in one day, Israel was born. Everything I read and understand points to that particular event as heralding the true last days.
So, when? I cannot say, and I do not like to rely on feelings. Still, I can say it seems to me that we are getting close.
Islam is the Beast. I watch Erdogan’s reformation, retrenchment actually, of Turkey to its Islamic roots. Turkey is where the re-establishment of the Caliphate is going to be.
And, I also believe that the Bible is centered in the Middle East and Central Asia, not here or in Europe, or India or China.
Well, The murder of both Jews and Christians are centered there as well. Tribulation? If you look at what is happening there, it is evident the Tribulation is ongoing and is a horrifying charnel house of slaughter.
Add it all up. It would seem we are truly that generation that will see Jesus Christ return.
The muslims won’t like it very much.
I think the “agonizing conversations” are two-fold:
1) It’s the conversations they’re going to have to have with their congregations. If they stand their Biblical ground and cling to the truth, some may, for whatever reason, disagree and possibly leave the church....taking their money with them. If enough people leave...well, many pastors are afraid that their church will have to close up shop. If they do stand their ground, I think God will provide-it’s just that they may have forgotten that...or don’t believe it.
2) The other “agonizing conversations” are the homosexuals themselves (or their families), screaming vitriol in their faces, threatening bankrupting lawsuits and/or physical violence due to their “unaccepting” behavior.