Posted on 12/07/2014 4:30:17 AM PST by wheat_grinder
James Cardinal Gibbons, The Faith of our Fathers, 88th ed., pp. 89.
"But you may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify."
Stephen Keenan, A Doctrinal Catechism 3rd ed., p. 174.
"Question: Have you any other way of proving that the Church has power to institute festivals of precept?
"Answer: Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her-she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday, the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday, the seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority."
John Laux, A Course in Religion for Catholic High Schools and Academies (1 936), vol. 1, P. 51.
"Some theologians have held that God likewise directly determined the Sunday as the day of worship in the New Law, that He Himself has explicitly substituted the Sunday for the Sabbath. But this theory is now entirely abandoned. It is now commonly held that God simply gave His Church the power to set aside whatever day or days she would deem suitable as Holy Days. The Church chose Sunday, the first day of the week, and in the course of time added other days as holy days."
Daniel Ferres, ed., Manual of Christian Doctrine (1916), p.67.
"Question: How prove you that the Church hath power to command feasts and holy days?
"Answer. By the very act of changing the Sabbath into Sunday, which Protestants allow of, and therefore they fondly contradict themselves, by keeping Sunday strictly, and breaking most other feasts commanded by the same Church.'
James Cardinal Gibbons, Archbishop of Baltimore (1877-1921), in a signed letter.
"Is Saturday the seventh day according to the Bible and the Ten Commandments? I answer yes. Is Sunday the first day of the week and did the Church change the seventh day -Saturday - for Sunday, the first day? I answer yes . Did Christ change the day'? I answer no!
"Faithfully yours, J. Card. Gibbons"
The Catholic Mirror, official publication of James Cardinal Gibbons, Sept. 23, 1893.
"The Catholic Church, . . . by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday."
Catholic Virginian Oct. 3, 1947, p. 9, art. "To Tell You the Truth."
"For example, nowhere in the Bible do we find that Christ or the Apostles ordered that the Sabbath be changed from Saturday to Sunday. We have the commandment of God given to Moses to keep holy the Sabbath day, that is the 7th day of the week, Saturday. Today most Christians keep Sunday because it has been revealed to us by the[Roman Catholic] church outside the Bible."
Peter Geiermann, C.S.S.R., The Converts Catechism of Catholic Doctrine (1957), p. 50.
"Question: Which is the Sabbath day?
"Answer: Saturday is the Sabbath day.
"Question: Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
"Answer. We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday.
Exactly! Thank you.
How do you know that Saturday these days is the same Saturday following creation? Calendar errors could have resulted in that day now being called Tuesday. And we’d all go to hell. Or Cleveland.
Perhaps you should rely on Torah rather than Talmud... And YHWH's counting rather than man's. Pentecost and Shavuot are the same day.
It seems plain enough to me that the seventh day of rest was separated from the feast of weeks and first fruits and the ingarhering at the years end.
But Shavuot is also a First Fruits offering. It is the First Fruits of the winter wheat... it is also the last day of the counting of the omer, tying it specifically to Passover and First Fruits and the days of unleavened bread. If you study the significance, you will find that all of them are leading forth out of Egypt... But then, you won't see that unless you see them all together as the spring feasts.
Perhaps you should rely on Torah rather than Talmud... And YHWH’s counting rather than man’s. Pentecost and Shavuot are the same day.
Many believe that the seven day feast can start on Friday rather than Saturday which would put Jesus`s death on Thursday instead of Friday which puts Jesus in the grave more like three days instead of two and it makes perfect sense to me.
And the feast of weeks do not change the fact that there is a Sabbath day every seven days.
Then we are in fair agreement. though I believe he died upon a Wednesday (He must be in the belly of the earth for three days and nights).
What most people don't understand is that the spring feasts are beholden to two different time series:
Passover, and therefore the Feast of Unleavened Bread are tied to the first day of the month, which can fall on any day of the week... Thus Passover can fall on any day of the week, just being 14 days past the first of the month.
First Fruits and the Counting of the Omer, and thereby Shavuot (Pentecost), are tied to a day of the week (the day after the first Sabbath after Passover).
Thus these two sets are different, but 'float' closely together, the difference being made up between Passover, and the next Sabbath after Passover.... That 'float' in the year that Yeshua died, must contain precisely three days and three nights.
And the feast of weeks do not change the fact that there is a Sabbath day every seven days.
True again. The Sabbath has not changed. And there is no defense for those who say it has.
Then we are in fair agreement. though I believe he died upon a Wednesday (He must be in the belly of the earth for three days and nights).
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