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For sure would be great, they need to get over this lie that they are still homosexual once they repent. Personally I dont think the Catholic Church is equipped to help them unfortunately.

praise the Lord if they stop and invite Jesus into their life

They need the Baptism in The Holy Spirit, so perhaps Charismatic Catholics could help, but in a regular main line Catholic Church, dont see it. With God all things are possible... and BTW God Be merciful to me a sinner

Teen Challenge, even their program is not open to homosexuals. Not out of a lack of love, just because of the reality of the situation.

I believe Jesus can remake them if they completely submit to God, the outcome would not still be refering to oneself as homosexual.


10 posted on 12/15/2014 8:52:29 AM PST by Friendofgeorge (I AM OFFICER DARREN....CRUZ 2016 OR BUST)
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To: Friendofgeorge
"For sure would be great, they need to get over this lie that they are still homosexual once they repent. Personally I don't think the Catholic Church is equipped to help them unfortunately."

I agree that labels such a "homosexual," "gay," etc. can signify some connection of "gay pride", i.e. the out-and-prouid mentality. That's a big red flag. "Gay" didn't exist before there was a "gay movement."

In the past, I would have said, "So if you're Christian, don't call yourself 'gay' anymore." But I'm reconsidering that now.

I now think there are some reasons why some people would keep the term "homosexual" or even "gay" or "lesbian" while nevertheless being celibate and Christian, and free from the sin. For one thing, the same-sex attraction may remain, and a person may want to let others know they don't want to be nudged into an inappropriate social or "dating" predicament.

Or it may be something that makes sense for a writer-speaker like Eve Tushnet, to explain in a shorthand manner where she's coming from.

I loved Eve Tushnet's new book, which helped me understand why this makes sense for some.

12 posted on 12/15/2014 10:39:33 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (What does the LORD require of you, but to act justly, to love tenderly, to walk humbly with your God)
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