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To: Arthur McGowan

...”denying that Mary is the mother of God logically demands denying that Jesus Christ is God”.....

That’s not true....God becoming flesh....and Mary giving Birth to Jesus... are indeed two very distinct events. Therefore I cannot believe in what the catholic religion states regarding their mary, which is not the Mary of the Bible.

So we’ll certainly disagree on that note. Mary wasn’t nor could she ever be our Savior...nor our mother. Only Jesus alone.


74 posted on 12/25/2014 4:31:29 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

The Word became flesh. I.e., the Word began to be the act of existence of a human nature. The material for the flesh came from Mary, precisely as the flesh of any child comes from its mother’s body.

Mary became the mother of the Word-made-flesh at the instant of conception—not at His birth, exactly as every woman becomes a mother at the instant of her child’s conception, not at his birth.

The title “Mother of God” means only this: that Mary is the mother of the Person who is the Word-made-flesh, who is the Second Person of the Trinity.

The title never meant that Mary is our savior! Nor did it ever mean that Mary is the origin of the Second Person of the Trinity from eternity!

The title means only that because Mary is the mother of a Person who is God, she may be called “Mother of God.”

Just as, if Emily is the mother of Sam, and Sam is a fireman, Emily is the mother of a fireman.

As for Mary’s being the mother of all of us: Saint John tells us that Jesus said to John, “Son, behold your mother,” and to Mary, “Mother, behold your son.”

The gospel does not engage in chit-chat. “Wasn’t that nice of Jesus to provide for his mother?” There is always a spiritual truth involved—one that involves US.

On the cross, Jesus is giving birth to the Church. The water and blood that flow from his side represent the water of Baptism and the blood of the Eucharist—the two primary sacraments—the sacraments of initiation—i.e., the two sacraments that create a Christian.

Hanging on the cross, at the very moment that He is bringing into being His BODY on earth—the Church—Jesus gives Mary to the Church as our mother, and us to Mary as her children. Mary is our mother because the flesh of the body of Christ was taken from her body, and we are now the body of Christ.

Why do people say that Catholics believe that Mary is our savior, when NO Catholic has ever believed that?

Why do people say that Catholics worship Mary, when EVERY Catholic knows that doing so would be the sin of idolatry?

The reason must be that people are being taught slanders against the Catholic Church, in order to keep them from inquiring about what it actually teaches.


76 posted on 12/25/2014 5:22:26 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: caww

“Mary wasn’t nor could she ever be our Savior...nor our mother. Only Jesus alone”


Has anyone declared that Mary is a “Savior”??? As a Catholic I have never heard such a thing. Maybe you can clarify this? As for being our Mother - it is a spiritual thing - given to us from the Cross by Jesus, himself.


78 posted on 12/25/2014 5:31:40 PM PST by Gumdrop
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To: caww

“Mary wasn’t nor could she ever be our Savior”

Correct:

Luke 1:46-47

“And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,

And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.”


81 posted on 12/25/2014 7:05:34 PM PST by ScottfromNJ
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