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To: DWW1990
there is a difference in forgiveness between humans and eternal forgiveness between man and God.

In what we can forgive, yes, but I don't see the difference concerning when we should forgive.

Where does Christ tell us to forgive those who have done wrong, continue to do wrong, and are totally unrepentant in doing wrong.

Followed to its logical end, this would mean that having a prison system is unethical.

13 posted on 07/20/2015 10:33:53 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan

Where does Christ tell us to forgive those who have done wrong, continue to do wrong, and are totally unrepentant in doing wrong? ————

I believe it was On The Cross. “Father forgive them.....”.

I know what you are saying absolutely. Jesus in his last agony exhibits for me that I would not wish to pass on with unforgiveness of anyone, on my soul. In every day life, however, I have heard exactly what you allude to here, that without repentance from the offender against me, there is not a path for outwardly forgiving them. I don’t know about that.

Also, I have learned about forgiveness that does not mean you have to entertain their incessant abuse for a moment, or hug them up as a loved one, no, but of the kind of forgiveness that simply wishes them no ill, does not condemn them to Hell, and can hope for their conversion toward me.

ISIS would be a different matter. We must despise their brutality as Jesus must have despised his torturers and crucifiers. He did not fight what He had already ordained in Heaven for our Salvation, but we are not held to that standard as many warriors and soldiers were faithful to Jesus.


22 posted on 07/20/2015 10:51:53 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: SampleMan

“Followed to its logical end, this would mean that having a prison system is unethical.”

I don’t think so, because personal forgiveness isn’t really related to justice that society metes out.

What would happen if you took it to its logical end would simply be that you wouldn’t be keeping track of who wronged you and how, and you’d just get on with living your life.


29 posted on 07/20/2015 11:10:41 AM PDT by Boogieman
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