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A conservative revolt is brewing inside the Vatican
Washington Post ^ | 9/7/15 | Anthony Faiola

Posted on 09/07/2015 4:53:12 PM PDT by markomalley

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To: FlingWingFlyer

I would not be surprised when he hits 80, that he will also step down.


21 posted on 09/07/2015 5:26:52 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: SubMareener

New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE)


22 posted on 09/07/2015 5:27:52 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: MUDDOG

It will be interesting when he comes to America towards the end of the month, how big the crowds will be.


23 posted on 09/07/2015 5:29:55 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: markomalley

he’d best have a food taster.


24 posted on 09/07/2015 5:29:58 PM PDT by avital2
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To: FatherofFive

I miss them both, and this week, the two twin towers.


25 posted on 09/07/2015 5:30:58 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: madison10

Reagan and Thatcher did nothing about the abomination of abortion. Anyone who distorts the Word of God is distorting the knowledge of the Son of God.


26 posted on 09/07/2015 5:35:59 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Biggirl

He’s a celebrity, so he’ll probably get big crowds.

His plan to give a sermon in Spanish in DC (siding with the invaders) should be enough to deny him a visa as an undesirable alien.


27 posted on 09/07/2015 5:41:44 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: markomalley; COBOL2Java

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28 posted on 09/07/2015 5:42:06 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (If the faith were endangered, a subject ought to rebuke his prelate even publicly. -Thomas Aquinas)
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To: markomalley
Conservatives counter that in the current climate of rising liberal thought, they have been thrust unfairly into a position in which “defending the real teachings of the church makes you look like an enemy of the pope,” a conservative and senior Vatican official said on the condition of anonymity in order to speak freely.

“We have a serious issue right now, a very alarming situation where Catholic priests and bishops are saying and doing things that are against what the church teaches, talking about same-sex unions, about Communion for those who are living in adultery,” the official said. “And yet the pope does nothing to silence them. So the inference is that this is what the pope wants.”

The above observations are spot on.

29 posted on 09/07/2015 5:42:52 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: MUDDOG

Posting here while the window to my computer room is open, very warm tonight. Listening to folks next door having a Labor Day night party. When I think of the upcoming visit, the one to D.C. in which the mass will be said in Spanish, I cannot help but think it will be more like a party gathering.


30 posted on 09/07/2015 5:46:44 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: gaijin

Bttt


31 posted on 09/07/2015 5:49:46 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: FatherofFive
Everything is very wrong right now.
...right down to the current pope.
32 posted on 09/07/2015 5:51:31 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: Biggirl
I miss them both, and this week, the two twin towers.

I used to work in the WTC. 79th floor. Overlooked Governor's Island and the Statue of Liberty. I still tear up thinking about it...

33 posted on 09/07/2015 5:52:35 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: All

when has a leftist ever let go of the reigns of anything? he intends to do the Church (Christian, not just Catholic) the same thing Obama did to the US.. leave it in ruins.


34 posted on 09/07/2015 5:53:13 PM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Good quote from Thomas Aquinas. I wasn’t aware of it.


35 posted on 09/07/2015 5:54:21 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Palio di Siena

I was thinking the same thing as I read this sad article.


36 posted on 09/07/2015 5:56:44 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Salvation

Summa Theologica II, II, q. 33, a. 4


37 posted on 09/07/2015 5:57:09 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (If the faith were endangered, a subject ought to rebuke his prelate even publicly. -Thomas Aquinas)
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To: Popman

Francis had said that he is not offended when he is called Marxist, since he knows many Marxists that are good people. Since Peron supported the Axis, and Argentina gave refuge to many Nazis at the end of World War II, I wonder If Francis might also know Nazis who are good people and if he will be offended if he is called a Nazi sympathizer? After all, the Communists murdered more people than the Nazis, if he found many good Communists, he might also find good Nazis.

In the book written by Archbishop Bergoglio on the trip of John Paul II to Cuba, Francis makes echo of the virtues of the Cuban Stalinist regime as expressed in Castro’s addresses while exalting the Cuban dictator’s vitriolic attacks to the capitalist system making U.S. the culprit of everything that is wrong in Latin America.

As soon he took power, Francis opened the doors of the Vatican to the Marxist liberation theologians, leaders of a Marxist perversion of the Gospels movement that was proscribed by H.H. John Paul II following the condemnation of socialism as “intrinsically perverse”, position maintained by Magisterium of the Church from H.H. Pope Leo XIII to Pope Benedict XVI.


38 posted on 09/07/2015 5:59:25 PM PDT by Dqban22
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To: markomalley
“The pope does not have the power to change teaching [or] doctrine.”

But...I've been repeatedly assured that the Pope is inerrant on doctrine. If he's divinely infallible in that regard, then it's not that he doesn't have the power (as in he's not _allowed_ to), it's that he's metaphysically _incapable_ of doing so.

If the Pope is inerrant/infallible on doctrine, then what's the problem?

39 posted on 09/07/2015 6:18:41 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The world map will be quite different come 20 January 2017.)
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To: markomalley
I'm not sure I'd trust the WASHINGTON COMPOST to give an accurate portrayal of what's going on in the Catholic church.

Incidentally, this business of priests having the authority to forgive abortion, instead of referring it to the Pope, has been delegated to individual parish priests in America for the past several years. As usual, the news media have confused things instead of clearing them up. Our parish bulletin this past Sunday emphasized that anyone who had received absolution for an abortion from a parish priest did not need any further absolution (subject, of course, to repentance and a determination to reform).

40 posted on 09/07/2015 6:20:10 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon)
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