Posted on 03/17/2016 7:49:46 AM PDT by ebb tide
No, I don't think Jesus was like you, or Luther.
By definition your comments, where you wrote " Luther agitated against the demonic cult known as Judaism." are antisemitic. Luther and his Germans, who persecuted the Jews can imagine they served God and be in for a surprise. When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Matthew, Catholic chapter twenty five, Protestant verses thirty one to forty six,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James
So, your position is that to deny Christ as the Messiah is anti-Semitic?
Or, is your position that agreeing that Christ is the Messiah is anti-Semitic?
So why did you apostatize from the Church He founded?
And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven. Matthew; Chapter 16
And to whom have you been confessing your sins?
Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.
I find it quite amusing that protestants claim "sola scriptura", yet cherry-pick the same to their own whims.
One of the many reasons for my loving and respecting the LCMS apart from its conservatism and traditionalism is that we have the BEST HYMNS, many of them written by Dr. Martin Luther, himself!
Leni
Do you even realize how contradictory your question is ?
confession and subsequent repentance are ^fruits^ of the Faith, not requirements.
Let’s not return to the Law since Christ has brought the Gospel.
I think you may not understand how “Gospel-centered” my inquiry is?
Jesus’ very breath carries these words:
No one comes to the Father except by Me. Where does that leave the Jews?
Good luck with that thinking, but I doubt it will work out well for you and the others.
Jesus said: "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life." John 5:24
Good luck with anything other than that.
So you just don't do it? Is that correct?
>> As do we all.<<
Speak for yourself.
Wow....someone's as pure as the driven snow.
Another cherry-picker.
Who assured you of that? And when did they do so?
I think Paul noted something about the security of the believer.
13And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory Eph 1:13-14
Catholics, with their history of the bad popes...current one included, are in no position to criticize Luther.
“Watch how many would rather condemn a deceased man than to come to Christ for eternal life.”
Luther “came to” reading ROMANS. That dovetails with my FR philosophy of “Get thee to the Founders!” You want Church truth from Jesus Christ risen from the dead? GET THEE TO PAUL! (God speaks through chosen vessels.)
Immediately a conniption will be had: Get thee to Paul? Get thee to Jesus!
No, it was Jesus—continuing to teach AFTER His resurrection—that makes Paul of any importance. But because He DID choose him as apostle to the Gentiles, people had BETTER “get thee to Paul”! We’re not the Jews who were “His own” and His words to them are not specifically to us. Get over it.
Martin Luther merely reminded men to do this, having found liberty through the free GIFT of righteousness spelled out in Romans. I have no confidence that someone willingly deceived by man made religion (pride!) will be able to see this, let alone DO anything about it.*
*See: Charles Pope’s thread topic “Where a Tree Falls There it Lies” for an idea of where stubbornness against truth lands one.
John 3:14-15
There's a whole bunch more of those "cherries" btw.
The Gospel is clear....we come to Christ through faith. No work we do is remotely good enough to save us.
Another cherry-picker.
As do muslims, hindus, buddhists, pagans, etc.
And Catholics.
Look bro, I sincerely hope you make it to Heaven. I just wonder if you would wish the same for me?
I, on the other hand, have assurance of salvation, since I left a works based religion. Anyone can experience it, though I think the vast majority of the world's population will go to Hell. It doesn't have to be that way.
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