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Pope Francis v. St. Thomas More: Pope to Express Gifts of Protetant Revolt and Ask Forgiveness
The Remnant Newspaper ^ | June 3, 2016 | Michael Matt

Posted on 06/03/2016 4:50:00 PM PDT by ebb tide

This just in from NCR: "Pope Francis’ visit to Lund, Sweden, to commemorate the 500th anniversary of the Reformation will comprise “two parts” beginning with a “common prayer” service in Lund's Lutheran cathedral and continuing with a public event at Malmö Arena that will be open to wider participation, Vatican and Lutheran leaders have announced.

"In a joint statement issued today by the Lutheran World Federation (LWF) and the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity, they reiterated that the Oct. 31 event will be centered on the themes of “thanksgiving, repentance and commitment to common witness".

It also said the overall aim of the ecumenical event “is to express the gifts of the Reformation and ask forgiveness for division perpetuated by Christians from the two traditions.” READ ARTICLE HERE

REMNANT COMMENT: Ah, yes, the 'gifts of the Reformation' -- such as the tearing in half of holy Christendom. The beginning of the end of the Holy Roman Empire. The destruction of the Catholic state. The loss of millions of souls who fell victim to the vile heresies of Martin Luther.

And let's not forget to ask forgiveness for the great saints who gave their lives in defense of Holy Mother Church under vicious assault of Protestant 'reformers.' Thomas More, for example, used the Greek term “anarchos” to describe the Protestant Revolt. He believed that the “whole great change of European consciousness in the sixteenth century was due to the hatred that they [Protestants] bear to all good order and the great hunger they have to make [everything] disordered.”

You see, poor Thomas More didn't think 'making a mess' was a particularly good idea. He regarded Lutherans as “daemonun satellites” (“agents of demons”), in fact, who had to be stopped before they brought civilized society to ruin.

In his book, The Life of Thomas More, Peter Akroyd explains: "This was no longer a time for questioning, or innovation, or uncertainty of any kind. He [More] blamed Luther for the Peasants’ Revolt in Germany, and maintained that all its havoc and destruction were the direct result of Luther’s challenge to the authority of the church; under the pretext of “libertas” Luther preached “licentia,” which had in turn led to rape, sacrilege, bloodshed, fire and ruin."

And why not? Of the Mass of his own priestly ordination, beloved liturgy of his fathers and forefathers, saints and martyrs, for a thousand years, Luther hisses: "I declare that all the brothels…all the manslaughters, murders, thefts and adulteries have wrought less abomination than the popish Mass."

This from one who, by his own admission, was “inspired”—while on his toilet, no less—with the certainty that the Church was the great Whore of Babylon, that four of her seven Sacraments were abominations, as were her priesthood, celibacy, papacy and monastic life. On his toilet, Luther figured it out—all that’s needed is Faith alone…and the laws of Christianity be damned!

“Be a sinner and sin on bravely,” said Luther, “but have stronger faith and rejoice in Christ, who is the victory of sin, death, and the world. Do not for a moment imagine that this life is the abiding place of justice: sin must be committed… sin cannot tear you away from Him, even though you commit adultery a hundred times a day and commit as many murders.”

Compare these words to similar ones written by the Satanist Aleister Crowley: "Are we walking in eternal fear lest some 'sin' should cut us off from 'grace'? By no means…Live as the kings and princes, crowned and uncrowned, of this world, have always lived, as masters always live… make your self-indulgence your religion…When you drink and dance and take delight, you are not being 'immoral,' you are not 'risking your immortal soul'; you are fulfilling the precepts of our holy religion [Satanism]…Is not this better than [to] go oppressed by consciousness of 'sin,' wearily seeking or simulating wearisome and tedious 'virtues'?"

Protestantism, Satanism, Freemasonry—these were but brothers-in-arms in the ancient war against the holy Church, a war fomented by agents of disorder. Even some of Luther’s friends readily admitted that the “Reformation” was anarchistic.

For example, the ex-priest Martin Bucer, who’d benefited from Luther’s moral dispensations where an ex-nun and his vows were concerned, nevertheless admits: "The whole Reformation was one grand indulgence for libertinism. The greater part of the people seems only to have embraced the gospel in order to shake off the yoke of discipline and the obligation of fasting and penance, which rested upon them in popery, and that they may live according to their own pleasure, enjoying their lusts and lawless appetites without control. That was the reason they lent a willing ear to the teaching of justification by faith alone and not by good works, for the latter of which they had no relish."

It is no wonder that Erasmus (who also advocated reform) would write: “Lutheranism has but two objects at heart—money and women.”

And now Pope Francis is heading off to Sweden to commemorate what Martin Bucer called 'one grand indulgence for libertinism" and St. Thomas More condemned as the demonic project of the Antichrist himself -- the Protestant Revolt.

God help us, what is the matter with this man!


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Mainline Protestant
KEYWORDS: francischurch; martinluther; thomasmore
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To: xkaydet65
...as if this were still the 16th Century.

Well; read FR Catholics.

They are STILL stuck in the 1600's with Luther; fresh, hot and wet; in their minds.

41 posted on 06/04/2016 3:37:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ealgeone
If the catholic would read the Word, they would realize God has always used flawed men and women....because we're all flawed men and women.

HERETIC!!!


http://www.marypages.com/
 
"In dangers, in doubts, in difficulties, think of Mary, call upon Mary.
Let not her name depart from your lips, never suffer it to leave your heart.
And that you may obtain the assistance of her prayer, neglect not to walk in her footsteps.

42 posted on 06/04/2016 3:43:44 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Suspected cases in the Church are IMMEDIATELY reported to police.
And NEW cases are almost non-existent.


43 posted on 06/04/2016 3:46:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
God help us, what is the matter with this man!

Mr. Matt, I think you know very well what is wrong with this man. You just don't want to admit to it...at least not publically.

He's an apostate, a public heretic, a non-Catholic and therefore can not possibly be your pope.

44 posted on 06/04/2016 4:21:55 AM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: ealgeone
If the catholic would read the Word, they would realize God has always used flawed men and women....because we're all flawed men and women.

Does that go for flawed Popes as well, or are you highly selective in employing that insight?

45 posted on 06/04/2016 4:55:32 AM PDT by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: SGNA
Also they must restrain that dangerous manner of speaking which generates false opinions and fallacious hopes incapable of realization; for example, to the effect that the teachings of the Encyclicals of the Roman Pontiffs on the return of dissidents to the Church, on the constitution of the Church, on the Mystical Body of Christ, should not be given too much importance seeing that they are not all matters of faith, or, what is worse, that in matters of dogma even the Catholic Church has not yet attained the fullness of Christ, but can still be perfected from outside. They shall take particular care and shall firmly insist that, in going over the history of the Reformation and the Reformers the defects of Catholics be not so exaggerated and the faults of the Reformers be so dissimulated, or that things which are rather accidental be not so emphasized, that what is most essential, namely the defection from the Catholic faith, be scarcely any longer seen or felt.

- from the Holy Office Letter under Pius XII, On the "Ecumenical Movement", 1949

We are there folks. We are there.

46 posted on 06/04/2016 5:03:13 AM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: piusv

And where oh where is Benedict? Burke? Schneider? Sarah?

Why haven’t they condemned this? This has been in the works for years now, no?

Perhaps because they see nothing wrong with it either.


47 posted on 06/04/2016 5:43:24 AM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: SGNA

Good thing Benedict is not like Francis and was traditional: /s

http://www.traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A357rcRatzLuther.html


48 posted on 06/04/2016 5:54:13 AM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: Campion

Applies to all of us. It was a reminder to one of your fellow catholics.


49 posted on 06/04/2016 6:50:53 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Elsie

+1


50 posted on 06/04/2016 7:13:27 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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To: piusv
But of course!

Ratzinger's Contributions to the Augsburg Accord

51 posted on 06/04/2016 8:09:35 AM PDT by SGNA
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; BlatherNaut
And tell us, how exactly did Luther do that? So much of Luther's "heroism" is based on pure ignorance.

"He brought the written word to the masses!" -- during a time when the majority couldn't read.

"He freed the written word from Latin!" -- during a time when anything of consequence was recorded in Latin -- furthermore, proper translations that had been not been butchered by reformers were available in vernacular languages long before Luther came on the scene...Which were about as useful as Latin bibles to the majority of the population whom, again, were illiterate.

"Luther removed heretical editions the Catholics made to the Church!" -- such as Marian devotion, the rosary, sacred music and incense and vestments, liturgy...Oh, wait a minute, no he didn't. Misguided and wrong as Luther was, much of the changes attributed to him are the work of later Protestants.

"He freed the population from the corrupt Church hierarchy!" -- There was a lot of corruption among the hierarchy, and guess what? Much of it kept on rolling both during and after the reformation. lord-Bishops, burghers, princes, landgraves, who had been corrupt Catholics, became corrupt Protestants. Contrary to the neat (not to mention laughable) Protestant image of Post tenebras lux, the reformation was messy, inexact, and fitful. Regional politics heavily influenced how people and places embraced or opposed the reformation. princes and bishops, especially in Germany, could be Lutheran, Catholic, Lutheran-leaning Catholics or Catholic-leaning Lutherans, Lutherans who sided with Catholics or vice-versa for reasons of their own, etc. A bishop might very well continue to hold his position, allow some changes but not others, and nobody could be sure where exactly his loyalties lay. The sack of Munster (if you visit you can still see the metal cages in which Protestants roasted other Protestants alive) and the events leading up to it provide an excellent example of the type of confusion that permeated the era.

52 posted on 06/04/2016 10:27:16 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

If you read carefully, I simply expressed great thankfulness that blessed Luther recovered the Gospel of Grace that saves.


53 posted on 06/04/2016 12:41:03 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

***Is the Pope Catholic?***

Nope. A wolf in sheep’s clothing. A son of his father of lies.

Him and Obama should just go together on one huge apology tour against everything left in this world that is good.

Thank God the Church belongs to Jesus and not this wicked man!


54 posted on 06/04/2016 1:22:32 PM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God. ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

***“Be a sinner and sin on bravely,” said Luther, “but have stronger faith and rejoice in Christ, who is the victory of sin, death, and the world. Do not for a moment imagine that this life is the abiding place of justice: sin must be committed… sin cannot tear you away from Him, even though you commit adultery a hundred times a day and commit as many murders.”***

Thank God for THIS? Christ have mercy.


55 posted on 06/04/2016 1:24:55 PM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God. ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Excuse me but comparing David or any of the Old Testament prophets is absurd. Show me where any of them advocating sinning as much as possible.

Blessed Father Luther? I think not.


56 posted on 06/04/2016 1:28:59 PM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God. ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: ealgeone

I am Catholic and I do read the Bible that’s how I know you can’t compare Luther to King David.

King David sinned but was always sorrowful and repentant. Luther was neither.

And as a disclaimer, I wouldn’t compare our new Pope to King David either. Personally I think he’s a heretic. But the Church doesn’t belong to this Pope or any other. It belongs to Christ, the creator of it.


57 posted on 06/04/2016 1:34:14 PM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God. ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: Lil Flower
King David sinned but was always sorrowful and repentant. Luther was neither.

You have no idea whether he was or was not repentant.

The point remains, God continues to use flawed people.

58 posted on 06/04/2016 1:37:05 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

Whether who was repentant David our Luther?


59 posted on 06/04/2016 1:43:04 PM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God. ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: Lil Flower

Luther.


60 posted on 06/04/2016 1:46:35 PM PDT by ealgeone
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