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More Parish Closings Nationwide - What Are We to Learn and Do?
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 05-08-17 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 05/09/2017 8:08:13 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: Salvation

While I am not the Judge like Jesus nor have His Mercy, I have a concern that many may not reach Heaven based on my observations.

1) Lack of attendance at Mass, even among very active parishes (perhaps 30%). Lack of Confession.
2) Observed in a South American “Catholic” and European countries very low attendance, mostly elderly women.
3) The acceptance of divorce, abortion,same sex marriage, etc.
4) Lack of family structure, neighbor and community (church) support.
5) Lack of strong moral principles - both in society and the church.
6) That people can choose from 30,000 christian churches and more forming each year. Chose your own religion.
7) That many have left the Catholic faith.
8) That part of the Catholic leadership has gone the ways of the world and away from the path of Christ.
9) That many expect government to provide for their needs and not Christ (and self reliance).
10) That we do not honor God and place our trust in Him.

We have been warned by the Lady of Fatima. Let us pray and work together to bring our friends and enemies to God.


21 posted on 05/09/2017 9:08:54 AM PDT by ADSUM
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To: SubMareener

Are you sure?

Be careful because remember what Jesus warned about we do not know the day or the time. Only the Father knows that.


22 posted on 05/09/2017 9:12:26 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism5" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: ADSUM

Plus we have a Pope who become an embarrassment.


23 posted on 05/09/2017 9:15:43 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism5" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Salvation

Roman Catholicism is monolithic, staid, and stodgy. Much like how the Vatican itself is the last remnant of a vanished empire the Church itself is a remnant of a vanishing and declining faith...at least in Europe and America.

The leadership of Pope Jimmy Carter (Francis) is facilitating malaise.

What is deeply needed is a Pope Donald Trump (not sure who that would be) who would reinvigorate the faithful, purge the church of the homosexuals who dominate it, purge the church of the heretical feminists, and purge the church of those who promote apostasy and heresy.

In short what is needed is a fundamentalist, militant, evangelical revival in the Roman Catholic Church.

I pray that it happens.

I may not be a Catholic but the world is a better place with the Catholic church in it and I pray for its success and prosperity.


24 posted on 05/09/2017 9:16:45 AM PDT by MeganC (Democrat by birth, Republican by default, conservative by principle.)
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To: Biggirl

But always remember that priests are way down on the list — even behind non-Catholic ministers, etc.


25 posted on 05/09/2017 9:17:27 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Biggirl

Correction: who has become an embarrassment.


26 posted on 05/09/2017 9:18:27 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism5" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Salvation

Yet the old msm put a hot spotlight on the RCC before going after the non-ministers.


27 posted on 05/09/2017 9:22:48 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism5" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Steve_Seattle
"Parishes close when churches adopt a “me too” policy towards the values, morals, and beliefs of secular culture. When that happens, the church is deemed expendable."

Sure, why go to church to learn those values when you can learn them down on the street corner...

The sooner the church starts removing the sodomites and starts telling the truth the sooner they will be on the road to recovery.....

28 posted on 05/09/2017 9:30:59 AM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: MeganC

The only cardinal who comes to my mine would be Raymond Burke. He is no nonsense IMHO.


29 posted on 05/09/2017 9:32:44 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism5" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: MNDude
Many of the parishes in Minneapolis have been filled with illegals and the services are in Spanish as the Americans have stopped coming.

Not the worst of affairs. There was a parish in the "German Village" section of Columbus, Ohio where a German mass was held when I lived there in the late Sixties.

Better than the several poor alternatives.

30 posted on 05/09/2017 9:33:51 AM PDT by Ace's Dad (BTW, "Ace" is now Captain Ace. But only when I'm bragging about my son!)
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To: Biggirl

Correction: the non-Catholic ministers.


31 posted on 05/09/2017 9:35:08 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism5" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Biggirl

Yes. The stars and the Scriptures have identified a two day period, so we still don’t know the day or the hour. It corresponds to the Feast of Trumpets which is characterized as a two day period whose end , the last Trumpet, is determined by the High Priest.


32 posted on 05/09/2017 9:36:43 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: Salvation

For a long time I have thought this but never said it: Vatican II fixed a lot of things that weren’t broken. I’m 71 and remember packed masses pre Vatican II. Mass attendance started to drift downward when the wrong people were allowed to become priests. Satan is winning for now - which of course is forever for some, but Jesus will remember those who stood with him even when Satan was winning 28 to 3 in the middle of the third quarter. Don’t waver teach your children the way to heaven and pray the rosary each day.


33 posted on 05/09/2017 9:44:57 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: SubMareener

Rather we could be closer to a new Pentecost rather then the end of the age or a spiritual revival. The dark of the night before the dawn.

The feast of trumpets is a Jewish feast BTW.


34 posted on 05/09/2017 9:47:56 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism5" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Salvation
Jesus was far more sober in assessing the situation. He devoted many parables and warnings to our need to attend to the salvation He offers. There are the sheep and the goats, those on the right and those on the left, the wise virgins and the foolish ones, those ready for the master’s return and those who are not, those who will hear, “Come, blessed of my Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world” and those who will hear, “Depart from me. I know you not.” Jesus noted that the road to damnation was wide and many were on it, and “only a few” were on the narrow road to salvation (Matt 7:13-14).

If Roman Catholicism would stick with this and drop their false teachings on the need for Mary for salvation they'd be on to the Truth.

35 posted on 05/09/2017 9:55:29 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Biggirl

So that is your problem. Sorry but Jesus is the Jewish Messiah. We Gentiles are just grafted into the true vine as the Tanach tells us.


36 posted on 05/09/2017 9:57:37 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: ealgeone
If Roman Catholicism would stick with this and drop their false teachings on the need for Mary for salvation they'd be on to the Truth.

This thread was an excellent discussion of the article until you showed up. Thanks for ruining what was an intelligent discussion.

37 posted on 05/09/2017 9:58:08 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ. ~~~~ Appeasing evil is cowardice.)
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To: Salvation

With this pope what’s the point in staying catholic?


38 posted on 05/09/2017 10:05:45 AM PDT by Harpotoo
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To: Harpotoo
With this pope what’s the point in staying catholic?

If you believe it's the true Church, no pope would discourage you from staying. I didn't leave the US when that POS Obama was elected president (or Clinton, either, for that matter). I won't leave something infinitely more important like the Catholic Church just because there's a heretic as Pope.

Francis is temporary. Hell is forever.

39 posted on 05/09/2017 10:10:34 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ. ~~~~ Appeasing evil is cowardice.)
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To: SubMareener

But that was when He walked on this earth. He is in Heaven now as the King.

We do not know the day or the hour and what you would be regarded as error.


40 posted on 05/09/2017 10:11:19 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism5" - Ephesians 4:5)
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