It's The Sin, Dummy!

June 1, 2017 | Trad Bishop

[Mark17]

The Fall was a result of eating the fruit from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.

It was indeed. I forgot to mention, that my older sister told me, the teacher told their class that the original sin of Adam and Eve, was a sexual sin. She thought it was bunk, but that's what she was told.

[Mrs. Don-o]

As I said to another FReeper in a private message, who the h-— is Trad Bishop, and who authorized him or her to pass off this heretical nonsense as Catholicism??

I have never said thus to a n00bie before, but I wish you would go away. By writing this rubbish as if it were doctrine, you are engaged in a most destructive fraud.

[Mears]

You are really,really creepy.

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[Mrs. Don-o]

Metmom: cool your jets or redirect your fire. Thus rubbish about sex being a sin is not Catholicism.

Do not be misled by this impostor.

[Mrs. Don-o]

What is your diocese? Are you a sedevacantist?

[metmom]

I never claimed it was Catholicism.

I have heard Catholics say similar things in the past, but I have never seen it in any official teachings of the church.

[Trad Bishop]

"But you are come to Mount Sion, and to the City of the Living God, the Heavenly Jerusalem, and to the company of many thousands of angels, and to the Church of the first born who are written in the Heavens, and to God the judge of all, and to the spirits of the just made perfect, and to Jesus the mediator of the New Testament, and to the sprinkling of blood which speaks better than that of Abel. Hebrews 12:22~24

Would you please my dear sister, keep me in your prayers along with the decision that I myself am praying over at this minute. And thank you, thank you, thank you.

[Trad Bishop]

What Christ did for us on the Cross was our Redemption. In the Old Testament redemption meant to pay the price to the Temple so that an animal could live and that man could use him. Jesus paid our redemption/sin debt so that our Eternal Father would not destroy us for having stolen His and His only prerogative as mankind’s Creator. Like that animal from whom service was required by it’s owner, or his owner might sell him as useless, we must, as St. Paul tells us, work out our salvation in fear and trembling. Redemption and salvation are two different things. Redemption was given to us for free by Jesus on the Cross. Salvation will be decided by how well we suffer our cross and keep His commandments. If we are quick to confess our sins before we die, then God will be quick to forgive us. If we don’t we will spend eternity in Hell. Once we have taken that last breath, the state of our soul at that moment will remain that way for all eternity, giving us eternal life or eternal death. We decide. We are not predestined to Hell.

[Cvengr]

We are not saved by works, lest any man should boast.

The Cross was Judgment.

Redemption is to remove us from the slave market of sin.

The animals purchased at the Temple were used in blood sacrifice to atone for sin, not to preserve the life of the animal.

Once you are reborn in the spirit, you have eternal life. If you doubt this, you lack faith in what He provided at the Cross.

[Sontagged]

Dear Traddy:

Stop adding specious texts from untested apparitions to the new Covenant.

It’s what false teachers are made of.

[trebb]

Sexual hangups?

[metmom]

. Salvation will be decided by how well we suffer our cross and keep His commandments. If we are quick to confess our sins before we die, then God will be quick to forgive us. If we don’t we will spend eternity in Hell. Once we have taken that last breath, the state of our soul at that moment will remain that way for all eternity, giving us eternal life or eternal death. We decide. We are not predestined to Hell.

Salvation is by faith, not works in the least. Works are evidence of the changed heart and life, not a contributing factor towards salvation.

Here is what Paul says on it.

Galatians 2:15-21 We ourselves are Jews by birth and not Gentile sinners; yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.

But if, in our endeavor to be justified in Christ, we too were found to be sinners, is Christ then a servant of sin? Certainly not! For if I rebuild what I tore down, I prove myself to be a transgressor. For through the law I died to the law, so that I might live to God. I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness were through the law, then Christ died for no purpose.

Galatians 3:1-29 O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified. Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? Did you suffer so many things in vain—if indeed it was in vain? Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith— just as Abraham “believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”?

Know then that it is those of faith who are the sons of Abraham. And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “In you shall all the nations be blessed.” So then, those who are of faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.

For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.” Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.” But the law is not of faith, rather “The one who does them shall live by them.” Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree”— so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith.

To give a human example, brothers: even with a man-made covenant, no one annuls it or adds to it once it has been ratified. Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “And to offsprings,” referring to many, but referring to one, “And to your offspring,” who is Christ. This is what I mean: the law, which came 430 years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void. For if the inheritance comes by the law, it no longer comes by promise; but God gave it to Abraham by a promise.

Why then the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the offspring should come to whom the promise had been made, and it was put in place through angels by an intermediary. Now an intermediary implies more than one, but God is one.

Is the law then contrary to the promises of God? Certainly not! For if a law had been given that could give life, then righteousness would indeed be by the law. But the Scripture imprisoned everything under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.

Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed. So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise.

Ephesians 2:1-9 And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience— among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind.

But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved— and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

Ephesians 1:13-14 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.

ARE saved. Present tense.

Already in heaven with God in the heavenly places.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Here's exactly what you wrote:

(FTA)"Jesus was incarnated by the Holy Ghost, and not by animal coupling."

(Your comment)"And Catholics wonder why people claim the Catholic church teaches sex is wrong and marriage is degraded.

"I rest my case."

That's insinuating that these repellent anti-sex and anti-marriage attitudes are linked to the teachings of the Catholic Church.

Which they are not.

I rest my case.

[Mrs. Don-o]

"Heresy and nonsense.

= = =>p> Shortened to Horse Sense."

Barnyard ethics.

[Trad Bishop]

St. Matthew 7:13&14: "Enter ye at the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many there are who go in there at. How narrow is the gate, and strait is the way that leads to life: and few there are that find it!"
Hebrews 5:1~4: "For every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in the things that appertain to God, that he may offer up gifts and sacrifice for sin: who can have compassion on them that are ignorant and that err: because he himself also is compassed with infirmity. And therefore he ought, as for the people, so also for himself, to offer for sins. Neither does any man take to honor to himself, but he that is called by God, as Aaron was."

Any one who is familiar with Aaron certainly knows of the sins that the Bible tells us that Aaron committed. "But the things that are gain to me, the same that I have counted lost for Christ. Furthermore, I count all things to be but loss for the excellent knowledge of Jesus Christ my Lord; for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them but as dung, that I may gain Christ: and may be found in Him, not having my justice, which is of the Law, but that which is of the faith of Christ Jesus, which is of God, justice in faith..." (Philippians 3:7,8,9)

Therefore, I come before you my dear brothers and sisters not as your accuser or judge, but as a fellow sinner who is still trying to fight the good fight. I'm simply trying to help you to do likewise and to remind us all that our prime objective is still to drain the swamp of our souls of anything that will keep us out of Heaven.

Our Lady at Fatima did NOT come up with anything NEW, but as a pupil of Jesus all during His private life. She reminded us of just what will keep us out of Heaven. Again, the primary reason why people don't find "the narrow gate" or find it closed, is for sins of the flesh, including: abortion, birth control, pornography, masturbation, adultery, etc. The following is a short list from Scriptures which all are indicated to be "sins unto death". In other words, if you die unrepented with these sins on your soul, you can't get into Heaven.

Leviticus 8:19,20. These all refer to sexual sins.
Genesis 18 & 19. The story of Sodom and Gomorrah is obviously sexual sins.
Genesis 38. The story of Onan and even the story of Juda and Thamar: adultery, prostitution, and spilling of seed.
Job 31. Job made a covenant with his eyes.
St. Matthew 5:28~32. Adultery with the eyes and adultery otherwise.
Romans 1:24~32. Sins that will keep you out of Heaven, and verse 32 includes those that consent to those that do them.
Galatians 5:5,16~26, especially verses 19~21. These are sins that will keep you out of Heaven.
Apocalypse 22:14,15, especially verse 15.

All of these are accounted by the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church as mortal sin. In the French language, 'mort' means 'Death'! Mortal combat is to the 'Death'. We are in mortal combat daily with the devil and we MUST take it as seriously as he does. It's not a time to play cute or clever with the Trad Bishop because he's just a man. As a Watchman, it is my vowed duty to defend, first of all, Christ, in His rightful concerns for your souls, for which He paid the ultimate Price of His Suffering and Death on the Cross. Secondarily, but in total agreement with His concerns, it is also my vowed duty to arm you in this mortal conflict in which I am down in the trenches fighting right along side you. For, Satan is OUR enemy, not just yours.

We must clear up the difference between 'Redemption' and 'Salvation'. In Exodus 13:12~16, Moses received the commandment from God concerning the first born male of animals and of men. A price was to be paid to the priest for each of the first born males of certain animals. Verse 13 specifically says ..."and if they do not redeem it, thou shalt kill it", concerning animals; and every first born of men "thou shalt redeem with a price." Thus we can understand why Jesus as our Redeemer is the First Born of Men. He died on the Cross as the Redemption Price for mankind. It had to be an unblemished lamb, and so, "the Lamb of God Who takes away the sins of the world" became sin for us and our propitiatory offering to the Eternal Father. Obviously, if the redemption price was not paid for an animal, it had to be killed; and therefore was no longer of service to the human. Therefore, Jesus's death fulfilled the requirement of our sin debt to the Eternal Father and we are free and alive then to serve the Eternal Father. How we perform our service will determine our Salvation/eternal destiny. We are in charge of of own eternal fate. St. Paul tells us to work out our salvation in fear and trembling, and let us never forget that St. Paul's Tutor was Jesus Himself in the three days that St. Paul was in the 3rd Heaven. (2 Corinthians 12:1~9) And therefore his saying "work out your salvation in fear and trembling" supercedes those who say we're saved by faith alone just as Lucifer's "non servium" (I will not serve) got him and his fellows thrown out of Heaven.

Ezechiel 33:12&13: "Thou therefore O son of man, say to the children of thy people: the justices of the just shall not deliver him, in what day soever he shall sin: and the wickedness of the wicked shall not hurt him in what day soever he shall turn from his wickedness: and the just shall not be able to live in his justice in what day soever he shall sin. Yea, if I shall say to the just man he shall surely live, and he, trusting in his justice, commit iniquity: all his justices shall be forgotten, and in his iniquity which he has committed, in the same shall he dies." (Eternal) No sign of "once saved always saved" here, nor is there anything here regarding "faith alone", or that no works are necessary! After all, Martin Luther believed that even obeying the commandments were works!!

[Jim Robinson]

test... anyone there?

[editor-surveyor]

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Nope!
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[Trad Bishop]

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