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Islam's Bizarre Philosophical Problem (An amazing contradictory statement: the Koran is eternal)
American Thinker ^ | 07/21/2017 | Michael Konrad

Posted on 07/22/2017 7:39:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Redmen4ever

>>verily

Vociferously.

>>"Blasphemy laws preceded Christianity, were ubiquitous prior to the Enlightenment, and continue today in every majority Muslim country in the world."

>>It’s just those white people and their Christianity that you have a problem with.

What skin pigmentation did Thomas Jefferson have in mind for his "ETERNAL HOSTILITY"?


"...who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavoring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world, and through all time;
 
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 that it is time enough for the rightful purposes of civil government, for its officers to interfere when principles break out into overt acts against peace and good order; and finally, that truth is great and will prevail if left to herself, that she is the proper and sufficient antagonist to error, and has nothing to fear from the conflict, unless by human interposition disarmed of her natural weapons, free argument and debate, errors ceasing to be dangerous when it is permitted freely to contradict them. "
 
"I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF GOD ETERNAL HOSTILITY TO EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN"
--The Virginia Act For Establishing Religious Freedom
--Thomas Jefferson, 1786
 

61 posted on 07/23/2017 3:59:26 PM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: Redmen4ever

>>And if you weren’t so stupid, you wouldn’t have fallen into my trap

Isa 5:21
21 Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes and clever in their own sight.
NIV

How's that workin' for ya?

62 posted on 07/23/2017 4:04:06 PM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: jimmyray; All

I mean well, but you are correct to admonish me.

I’m overwhelmed with anger...but that’s no excuse.


63 posted on 07/25/2017 1:26:06 AM PDT by SirLurkedalot (10/10/51-7/7/16 RIP Dad, I'll be missing you until I cross over to Eternity)
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To: HLPhat

I’m not entirely sure what your point is, aside from the obvious, but I apologize for jumping you like I did.

We are all entitled to our opinions, so long as our hands don’t get involved.


64 posted on 07/25/2017 1:33:59 AM PDT by SirLurkedalot (10/10/51-7/7/16 RIP Dad, I'll be missing you until I cross over to Eternity)
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To: SirLurkedalot

“fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others,”

What does this mean?


65 posted on 07/25/2017 5:47:32 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: sparklite2; All

Glory to Thee! Never Could I Say What I Had No Right to Say

Qur’an 5:116-120 Surah Al-Ma’idah (The Table Spread)
And behold! Allah will say “O Jesus the son of Mary! didst thou say unto men ‘worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah”? He will say: “Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing Thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart though I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.
“Never said I to them anything except what Thou didst command me to say to wit ‘Worship Allah my Lord and your Lord’; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them; when Thou didst take me up thou wast the Watcher over them and Thou art a Witness to all things.
“If Thou dost punish them they are Thy servants: if Thou dost forgive them Thou art the Exalted the Wise.
Allah will say: “This is a day on which the truthful will profit from their truth: theirs are Gardens with rivers flowing beneath their eternal home: Allah well-pleased with them and they with Allah: that is the great Salvation (the fulfillment of all desires).
To Allah doth belong the dominion of the heavens and the earth and all that is therein and it is He who hath power over all things.

Say Not “Trinity”: Desist: it Will Be Better for You: for Allah Is One Allah

Qur’an 4:171-173 Surah An-Nisaa (The Women)
O people of the Book! commit no excesses in your religion: nor say of Allah aught but truth. Christ (Maseeh) Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an Apostle of Allah and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His Apostles. Say not “Trinity”: desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is One Allah: glory be to him: (for Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.
Christ (Maseeh) disdaineth not to serve and worship Allah nor do the angels those nearest (to Allah): those who disdain His worship and are arrogant He will gather them all together unto himself to (answer).
But to those who believe and do deeds of righteousness He will give their (due) rewards and more out of His bounty: but those who are disdainful and arrogant He will punish with a grievous penalty; nor will they find besides Allah any to protect or help them.

They Do Blaspheme Who Say: “Allah Is Christ the Son of Mary”...

Qur’an 5:72-77 Surah Al-Ma’idah (The Table Spread)
They do blaspheme who say: “Allah is Christ the son of Mary.” But said Christ (Maseeh): “O children of Israel! worship Allah my Lord and your Lord.” Whoever joins other gods with Allah Allah will forbid him the garden and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help.
They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy) verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them.
Why turn they not to Allah and seek His forgiveness? For Allah is Oft-forgiving Most Merciful.
Christ (Maseeh) the son of Mary was no more than an Apostle; many were the Apostles that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth makes His Signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!
Say: Will ye worship besides Allah something which hath no power either to harm or benefit you? But Allah He it is that heareth and knoweth all things.”
Say: “O people of the Book! exceed not in your religion the bounds (of what is proper) trespassing beyond the truth nor follow the vain desires of people who went wrong in times gone by who misled many and strayed (themselves) from the even way.

Apologist claim Mohammed didn’t understand it. That doesn’t matter. Satan does and used it to his advantage.

May God our Father lead us to His truth, BVB


66 posted on 07/26/2017 4:18:03 PM PDT by Bobsvainbabblings
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To: Bobsvainbabblings; All

This was supposed to be at the start of the post. BVB

“””The doctrine of the Trinity papers over the same chasm. Three Gods In One! And yet, Christianity hasn’t fallen apart.”””

Christianity hasn’t fallen apart but has lost a lot of souls to Islam. It is one of the fruits of the doctrine of the trinity. Satan used it to claim the Christians were polytheists. They have three gods, four if you add Mary.

Then some of the passages from the Koran where it is mentioned


67 posted on 07/26/2017 6:28:56 PM PDT by Bobsvainbabblings
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