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But if the Koran is God, and Allah is God, the Islamic doctrine of hard monadic monotheism falls apart.


The doctrine of the Trinity papers over the same chasm. Three Gods In One! And yet, Christianity hasn’t fallen apart.


11 posted on 07/22/2017 8:28:21 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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I see it as one God with three aspects; each co-equal.

The Father: Omnipotent Creator Boss

The Son: Mediator/Defense Lawyer etc.

The Holy Spirit: The Communication System/Translater/Instructor etc.

All in agreement. And so glad to know Him.


24 posted on 07/22/2017 11:40:19 PM PDT by SirLurkedalot (10/10/51-7/7/16 RIP Dad, I'll be missing you until I cross over to Eternity)
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To: sparklite2

A boring argument answered years ago.. lol.. I am stunned it would be posed here, on this board.


28 posted on 07/23/2017 4:21:56 AM PDT by momincombatboots (White Stetsons up.. let's save our country!)
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Glory to Thee! Never Could I Say What I Had No Right to Say

Qur’an 5:116-120 Surah Al-Ma’idah (The Table Spread)
And behold! Allah will say “O Jesus the son of Mary! didst thou say unto men ‘worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah”? He will say: “Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing Thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart though I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.
“Never said I to them anything except what Thou didst command me to say to wit ‘Worship Allah my Lord and your Lord’; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them; when Thou didst take me up thou wast the Watcher over them and Thou art a Witness to all things.
“If Thou dost punish them they are Thy servants: if Thou dost forgive them Thou art the Exalted the Wise.
Allah will say: “This is a day on which the truthful will profit from their truth: theirs are Gardens with rivers flowing beneath their eternal home: Allah well-pleased with them and they with Allah: that is the great Salvation (the fulfillment of all desires).
To Allah doth belong the dominion of the heavens and the earth and all that is therein and it is He who hath power over all things.

Say Not “Trinity”: Desist: it Will Be Better for You: for Allah Is One Allah

Qur’an 4:171-173 Surah An-Nisaa (The Women)
O people of the Book! commit no excesses in your religion: nor say of Allah aught but truth. Christ (Maseeh) Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an Apostle of Allah and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His Apostles. Say not “Trinity”: desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is One Allah: glory be to him: (for Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.
Christ (Maseeh) disdaineth not to serve and worship Allah nor do the angels those nearest (to Allah): those who disdain His worship and are arrogant He will gather them all together unto himself to (answer).
But to those who believe and do deeds of righteousness He will give their (due) rewards and more out of His bounty: but those who are disdainful and arrogant He will punish with a grievous penalty; nor will they find besides Allah any to protect or help them.

They Do Blaspheme Who Say: “Allah Is Christ the Son of Mary”...

Qur’an 5:72-77 Surah Al-Ma’idah (The Table Spread)
They do blaspheme who say: “Allah is Christ the son of Mary.” But said Christ (Maseeh): “O children of Israel! worship Allah my Lord and your Lord.” Whoever joins other gods with Allah Allah will forbid him the garden and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help.
They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy) verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them.
Why turn they not to Allah and seek His forgiveness? For Allah is Oft-forgiving Most Merciful.
Christ (Maseeh) the son of Mary was no more than an Apostle; many were the Apostles that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth makes His Signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!
Say: Will ye worship besides Allah something which hath no power either to harm or benefit you? But Allah He it is that heareth and knoweth all things.”
Say: “O people of the Book! exceed not in your religion the bounds (of what is proper) trespassing beyond the truth nor follow the vain desires of people who went wrong in times gone by who misled many and strayed (themselves) from the even way.

Apologist claim Mohammed didn’t understand it. That doesn’t matter. Satan does and used it to his advantage.

May God our Father lead us to His truth, BVB


66 posted on 07/26/2017 4:18:03 PM PDT by Bobsvainbabblings
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