The word “daily” in the Daniel passages, like all other places in the Bible, is ALWAYS used of the daily or continual sacrifice in the holy place. It is NEVER used to refer to something else.
I don't have much in common with Sub's theology or interpretations, but in Daniel is only where tamid is used as a stand alone definite noun, *the* tamid. The always/continual/perpetual [thing]. It is not used to modify any type of sacrifices or anything else. In all those other cases, the hei prefix is the grammar form for tamid being used as a modifier.
The one place in Daniel where ha-tamid is a modifier is in verse 8:13: ad matai hehazon hatamid, "until when [is] the daily vision", or "until when [is] the vision of the tamid".
Now people can assume that because it is used typically as a modifier for sacrifices, that ha-tamid also means the exact same in the book of Daniel. All info needs to go into the hopper for consideration. Daniel's use is different than the others, that's just a fact. That doesn't mean people can be free and loose with their own meanings though. It simply is what it is, something that is always/perpetual/continual/ does-not-change. And it will be removed/cast off/rejected or what have you.
An example of where we see this type of action, is in the wholesale rejection of truth that pervades society in some pretty grotesque forms ("transgender", the denial of biological reality). Truth by nature does not change, regardless of who plays Creator in order to invent his own reality.
It's what's in a person's heart, and *that* "tamid" is in a person't heart.
Just check out the word lev (lamed bet), "heart". The letters of the word spelled out are:
lamed mem dalet, bet yud tav.
The revealed letters are lamed bet which is lev; the concealed letters spell tamid.
Somebody out there is bound to appreciate that bit of data.
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I read somewhere that the last letter of the Hebrew Bible was lamed, so that Elohim was pointing to what it meant to be “after His own heart”.
I just checked to make sure, and was surprised to see that the last verse of 2 Chronicles 36 is from Cyrus’ decree to rebuild the temple. The last sentence is translated as “Whoever is among you of all his people, the Lord his God be with him, and let him go up.”
Interesting.
“It’s what’s in a person’s heart, and *that* ‘tamid’ is in a person’t heart. Just check out the word lev (lamed bet), ‘heart’. The letters of the word spelled out are:
lamed mem dalet, bet yud tav.
The revealed letters are lamed bet which is lev; the concealed letters spell tamid.”
That’s very interesting. I did not know that.
“in Daniel is only where tamid is used as a stand alone definite noun, *the* tamid. The always/continual/perpetual [thing]. It is not used to modify any type of sacrifices or anything else. In all those other cases, the hei prefix is the grammar form for tamid being used as a modifier.”
We do the same in English. If you do a web search on the word “daily,” you will get a page full of links to news websites. A very long time ago “daily” became associated with news. Now there are news organizations that use the term as a noun just like Daniel does. We tend to think of “daily” as a noun referring to the news.
In the film business, it used to be common to call the daily, raw, unedited film takes, “dailies.” It was kind of a shorthand for a basic ingredient of the filmmaking process. Again, “daily” the adjective was being used as a noun.
The Jews in Daniel’s time (many years after the original use of the term in Numbers) came to think of the term as a general summary of the various daily sacrifices that were part of temple worship.
Hattamid is used 5 times in Daniel. Each time is connected to the sanctuary. And, according to 11:31, the abomination of desolation will take the place of hattamid. Jesus taught that this abomination, precisely the one that Daniel spoke of, would “stand” in the holy place.
So I agree with your point about the way Daniel uses the word. And it might be reasonable to examine its meaning to be sure assumptions we make about such passages are accurate. It is, however, unreasonable for someone to simply interject into the passage whatever idea they like or prefer for it to mean in order to fit into preconceived prophetic paradigms.
And that is what I was addressing. SubMareener simply asserts that the “daily” thing that is taken away is NOT the daily sacrifices of the third temple (at least in the particular passage he was citing in Daniel 8:11).
SubMareener: “So what is ‘the daily’ that will be ‘taken away’? Well, it is certainly not the daily sacrifices that the Jews will present in the Third Temple, because that is what the anti-Christ will do at the midpoint.”
But it is exactly the idea of the perpetual, daily sacrifice being taken away that connects the passages together and helps us make sense of them. There is no daily sacrifice today. In order for it to be taken away, it must first be restored. And while I would not be dogmatic about it, I think this may be connected to the ministry of Elijah who will “come and restore all things” according to Matthew 17:11.