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The Church betrays the Gospel if she prefers politics to God: Cardinal Brandmüller
LifeSite News ^ | December 13, 2017 | Diane Montagna

Posted on 12/14/2017 12:06:35 PM PST by ebb tide

“The more the Church gets taken up with politics and sets aside the reality of God, grace and sin, the more we betray the Gospel,” Cardinal Walter Brandmüller, one of the four ‘dubia’ cardinals, has said.

Referring to a recent interview on Luther and the 500th anniversary of the Reformation, Cardinal Brandmüller, president emeritus of the Pontifical Committee for Historical Sciences, noted that a high-ranking representative of German Protestantism didn’t mention God or Jesus once in over 20 minutes. He said it really “touches a nerve” when he sees political matters put before God in the Catholic Church.

Cardinal Brandmüller was speaking in a short interview with the Italian media outlet, Il Giornale. The questions focused primarily on what some perceive as attempts to rebrand Luther in the Catholic Church. Brandmüller himself converted to Roman Catholicism from Lutheranism as an adolescent.

Asked if Italian Bishop Nunzio Galantino’s praise of Luther’s reform as “an event of the Holy Spirit” was “a bit over the top,” Cardinal Brandmüller said that in culturally Catholic countries “Luther and the Reformation are often seen as exotic and therefore — for some — fascinating phenomena.” He suggested, however, that “before voicing [such opinions] it would be better to study the matter more.”

READ MORE: Cardinal Müller: Luther’s reform was “against the Holy Spirit

Cardinal Brandmüller was also asked what he thought about the statue of Luther being placed prominently in the Paul VI Hall during Pope Francis’ meeting with 1,000 Lutherans and Catholics from Germany in the lead-up to his visit to Lund last October.

The cardinal did not address the matter directly but said: “The disagreement between various forms of Protestantism — and there are many — and the Catholic faith regards the very foundations. The concepts, for example, of faith, sacrament, grace, and the church in Protestant doctrine stand in sharp contrast with the Catholic faith — but this is not the place to speak of it further,” he said.

Asked what “doctrinal lines of demarcation” still separate Lutheranism and Catholicism, amid rumors that an “ecumenical Mass” is being planned at the Vatican, Cardinal Brandmüller said that full Christian unity must be based on the clear truth of what the Mass is: "the celebration of the mystery of the Eucharistic Sacrifice, as most recently taught in Sacrosanctum Concilium at Vatican II.”

Finally, when asked if such “rigid positions” in these matters aren’t just “traditionalist grumblings,” Cardinal Brandmüller quipped: “Am I [a traditionalist grumbler] if I’m convinced the Pythagorean theory is still true?”


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Worship
KEYWORDS: francischurch; luther

1 posted on 12/14/2017 12:06:35 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide
“The more the Church gets taken up with politics and sets aside the reality of God, grace and sin, the more we betray the Gospel,...”

I would agree to a point but why would a devout Christian vote Pro-Choice?

2 posted on 12/14/2017 12:17:00 PM PST by HarleyD ("There are very few shades of grey."-Dr. Eckleburg)
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To: ebb tide

Sorry to say it, but this Pope appears to be a fraud.


3 posted on 12/14/2017 12:17:19 PM PST by deweyfrank (Nobody's Perfect)
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To: ebb tide

Sorry Cardinal, but as humans, we can multi-task!


4 posted on 12/14/2017 12:19:52 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: ebb tide

The Church doesn’t get taken up with politics. Pope-a-dope does.


5 posted on 12/14/2017 12:21:06 PM PST by I want the USA back (*slam is not a religion. It is a political movement to establish a religion.)
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To: ebb tide

What?

He’s not talking about the Catholic church’s pope?


6 posted on 12/14/2017 12:47:14 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: SoConPubbie
It's not a pope's mission to multi-task God's message with communist politics.
7 posted on 12/14/2017 12:51:07 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
Cardinal Brandmüller said that in culturally Catholic countries “Luther and the Reformation are often seen as exotic and therefore — for some — fascinating phenomena.” He suggested, however, that “before voicing [such opinions] it would be better to study the matter more.” HA! Brandmüller has guts; I love the guy! ~ 'Death Before Dishonor' right?
8 posted on 12/14/2017 12:51:20 PM PST by heterosupremacist (Domine Iesu Christe, Filius Dei, miserere me peccatorem!)
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To: HarleyD

It’s debatable whether a Christian should vote at all. There is nothing in the New Testament that requires or even implies that we should be involved in politics. While the secular catechism of the last 40 years has favored political involvement, it’s been a real loser for the Christian mission.

Makes you wonder what is more important to some prominent church leaders; the Christian mission or worldly influence and power?


9 posted on 12/14/2017 12:55:23 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Hope and redemption are to be found in the Lord. Not in politics.)
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To: heterosupremacist
Padre Pio said that Martin Luther is in Hell says founder of Franciscans of the Immaculate
10 posted on 12/14/2017 1:03:32 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Multitasking is just a fancy way of saying you’re choosing to do one thing while not doing another. In this case it’s the Christian mission and God that usually gets neglected.

Politics fails a cost/benefit analysis. But it’s what seems to be of paramount importance to contemporary American Christians.


11 posted on 12/14/2017 1:10:03 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Hope and redemption are to be found in the Lord. Not in politics.)
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To: ebb tide

Great article and some fine words of wisdom from the Cardinal. Thanks for posting.


12 posted on 12/14/2017 1:12:20 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Hope and redemption are to be found in the Lord. Not in politics.)
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To: ebb tide
# 10 ebb tide wrote: http://catholicforum.forumotion.com/t1013-padre-pio-said-that-martin-luther-is-in-hell-says-founder-of-franciscans-of-the-immaculate I discovered the heroic virtues and many astonishing miracles of the Holy Saint of Pietrelcina many years ago (at the same time I was learning about St. Maximillian Kolbe) and I can still say, after all these years, they make my TOP 20 Saints...
13 posted on 12/14/2017 1:24:58 PM PST by heterosupremacist (Domine Iesu Christe, Filius Dei, miserere me peccatorem!)
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To: ebb tide

http://catholicforum.forumotion.com/t1013-padre-pio-said-that-martin-luther-is-in-hell-says-founder-of-franciscans-of-the-immaculate


14 posted on 12/14/2017 1:25:38 PM PST by heterosupremacist (Domine Iesu Christe, Filius Dei, miserere me peccatorem!)
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To: RKBA Democrat; ebb tide

This is what I get for reading the Title and not the article!

I agree with you both.

I do believe, however, that our politics should be an extension of our Christianity and we should be fully engaged in Politics as well.

Politics is part of our lives, especially in a Democratic Republic built on citizen involvement.

We cannot, and must not compartmentalize our lives in such a fashion that we refuse our to honor our responsibilities in a representative government system like ours.


15 posted on 12/14/2017 1:41:30 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Politics is a way of accomplishing goals. In this time and place it just isn’t working. Worse, it’s actually working against us and our faith. I


16 posted on 12/14/2017 5:36:31 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Hope and redemption are to be found in the Lord. Not in politics.)
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To: RKBA Democrat
Politics is a way of accomplishing goals. In this time and place it just isn’t working. Worse, it’s actually working against us and our faith. I

Couldn't disagree more.

When it is the darkest is the time our culture, and our politics, need us most.

The old Sunday School song "Dare to be a Daniel" comes to mind.
17 posted on 12/14/2017 8:12:29 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: ebb tide

The interview was back in August. Brandmuller, like Burke, has remained silent on Francis’ recent inclusion of Amoris Latitia’s proper interpretation into the Magisterium.


18 posted on 12/15/2017 2:45:53 AM PST by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: ebb tide

This interview shows that Brandmuller is 100% another man of the Vatican II Council (i.e. Modernist). Notice that he doesn’t “directly” address the Luther statue. it’s better to “study the [Reformation] matter more”, and how he describes “full Christian unity”.


19 posted on 12/15/2017 2:50:19 AM PST by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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