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To: agere_contra; chuckles

Quote-We don’t celebrate the Mosaic festivals because they are part of the Old Covenant. Christ fulfilled the Old Covenant and gave us the New Covenant.

We celebrate Easter, not Passover, because Passover is subsumed within Easter. The Passover is the foreshadowing of Christ’s Passion. The Blood of the Lamb protecting God’s people from the destroyer - it’s evident that Christ’s Passion of Christ is the fulfillment of the Passover.

Problem is because of Rome, Passover has been relegated to just another day but when one follws the Father’s calendar, Passover, the 14th Day, is His 6th and final work day of His 2nd week.

Good Friday is NOT the Father’s 6th work day.
Neither is Rome’s holy Saturday His 7th Day Sabbath.
And so on.(that would be news to all those Moses followers too)

Rome has changed times and laws with their calendars.
Predicted way back in Daniel.

When people get eyes to see Passover, Unleavened Bread and First Fruits are the Father’s 6th,7th and 1st Days, they will start to see how Rome and the whole world is being deceived by Satan. Which was predicted all the way back in Revelation.

Chuckles, you should inclue Rome’s daughters in your group. They are just as good as peddling Roman lies as Rome itself..

Almost like a completely different Jesus and 1st importance of the gospel is revealed when one tests Rome and her traditions with The Word and the Word made flesh.
And that isn’t just a Roman problem.
Christianity judaim and Islam, heck the whole world, accepts the false premises of those who have been a vessel to counterfeit truth..
Wait till people see just how all these inherited lies have blinded them to what it means by the Word became Flesh.

Today is thor’s day on the world calendar. Being conformed to that world pattern has blinded the eyes of even the strongest people of faith.

Imagine if they knew what today was to the Father and the Sonn. It isn’t thor’s day to our Creator and our Redeemer.
But all of this was predicted in places like Daniel and Revelation..


62 posted on 01/04/2018 8:42:57 AM PST by delchiante
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To: delchiante
I had a little trouble understanding where you were coming from in your post at first. It sounded like you might be agreeing with me, but I wasn't sure.

The spring Feasts were fulfilled with Jesus and the Holy Spirit, but the Fall Feats are still in front of us. Being Old Testament and New Testament doesn't matter, it's all the same Book. Actually, Christians get to be under the Abrahamic covenant. The Mosaic covenant is the one to avoid. The covenant with Abraham was through faith and God did everything. The only works involved with Abraham was his faith and obedience.

The Easter thing is straight out of Babylon. If we wish to follow God, then we should celebrate Passover for His death, Unleavened Bread for His burial, and First Fruits as Resurrection Day. As far as I know, and I could be wrong, I've NEVER personally seen Passover or First Fruits land on Easter. It's always at least a week apart, usually more. Usually the Jewish calendar, being 30 days each month and 360 day year, the day will eventually land on the same day, but I've never seen Easter do this. The Sabbath was made to be on the 7th day in Genesis 1, and written into Law in Leviticus 23. No where in Scripture can you find God changing it to the first of the week. God even made a Commandment to make it clear what day we are to set aside for Him. Sunday worship comes from man changing it to worship the sun god of the pagans.

You are correct that Rome changed the times, laws, and calendars, and it was predicted this would happen by evil doers. To make believers stop worshiping on the proper days is a way to confuse people to follow the wrong person when the time came.

This is why all the confusion in the last days. "The Day that no one Knows" is Trumpets. Every Jew knows that. It's 2 days and it only starts when the New Moon is seen, which no one knows the day or the hour that will happen. All the other Feasts are done in the middle of the month with a full moon. This is why Paul told the Thessalonians they were not in the dark and they knew perfectly well the Lord would come as a thief in the night, A Jew knows that the High Priest would walk the walls and catch watchers sleeping and set their garments on fire so they would be naked. He is known as the "thief in the night". Our High Priest is Jesus and He will come when gentiles are asleep and leave them behind to face the Beast. Several places we are told to "Watch!" How can we watch if we don't know what day it will be? Christians all over the world are sitting in pews every Sunday convinced when Jesus comes they will be taken out, saved from the Beast. NOT TRUE! They will be left behind to face execution for their faith. These will be the souls under the Altar in Heaven beheaded because they wouldn't take the mark. The ones that knew the day, and knew to watch and prepare are taken out to be the Bride of Christ. We will be hidden away for the 7 years of Tribulation on the earth. Noah and the Flood is a type and shadow of this time. Noah built the Ark as God told him, then entered the Ark WHEN GOD TOLD HIM 7 DAYS BEFORE THE RAIN STARTED. Noah knew what to do a full week before the rain fell because God told him exactly what He was doing. The Bible tells the ones that have ears to hear, and eyes to see, exactly what He is going to do and the day He will do it. Just because we won't heed God's Word doesn't make what He has revealed to us untrue. You can follow God, or man and the world. I can guarantee He will not do anything on Christmas and Easter. If we know what these days are and we know where they came from, why are we still hanging on to something that is even forbidden in Scripture? Traditions of men!!

Deut 12:29-32 tells us NOT to follow the traditions of the Gentiles. Jer 10:1-5 specifically tells us a tree in the house is a Gentile idol. We know all these things, yet we still do them. We know Halloween is strictly pagan, yet even churches have get together's on that day to give their children a slice of pagan life so they won't feel left out of the lost world. How many observant Jews go out on Halloween to get candy for their children?

As for your point about the "daughters" of Rome, Yes, I'm hoping that people can see no matter what church they attend, they have been tainted by Rome. No matter what they want to believe about their origins, most of them came from some splinter of Rome. In Scripture, women are religions or denominations. A daughter comes from one of these women. Being a daughter of the Harlot is no better than being the Harlot if you continue her habits.

The problem with Jews is they missed Jesus, but they have the background we should learn from. The problem with Gentiles is we have Jesus, but we have no clue about the rest of the Bible. What God is looking for would fit with the Messianic movement of the Jews. If Jesus was born an observant Jew, lived as an observant Jew, died as an observant Jew, and ascended as an observant Jew, wouldn't it behoove most of us to learn the Bible to understand how we are to imitate Jesus? A Roman Caesar in 330 AD had no clue how to set up a Christian movement and could only copy his own idol worship inherited from Babylon. We can point to Islam and understand they are following the moon god from Babylon, but we cannot seem to see the same for us and the sun god of Babylon. Just like you said about thor's day, we can't seem to get it that sun day is not the Lords day as listed in Leviticus 23:3. Just last night in my church, we discussed Genesis 1 and many were still hanging on to a day could have been any amount of time to God. God said 6 times that and evening and a morning were the (such and such) day. He emphasized 6 times that a day was a day, but we still try to squeeze Darwinism and millions of years into the Bible. If we can't believe God created everything in 6 days, then we miss many more clues given in the Bible. In 2 Peter, Peter tells us that 1000 years is a day and a day is 1000 years in prophesy. We should be looking for something to happen in 6000 years of history and know that the next 1000 years will be Jesus' reign on Earth. He just got through with telling about Noah's Flood and the destruction of the Earth, but for some reason, we cannot read the words on the page and start to try to fit 1000 years as millions and millions of years. Was it happenstance that the Bible mentioned the rain started when Noah was 600 years old?

It would benefit every Christian to at least study once, the Feasts and Festivals of the Lord to understand more of Prophesy. Then they should study Judaism in general to understand more of what Jesus was talking about. Another one would be a study on spiritual language. Tree's are people, women are churches, birds are demons, wolves are demons, locusts are demons, bread is Jesus, living water is Jesus, Serpents and dragons are Satan, beasts of the field are demons, water is words, a flood comes from the devil and a spring comes from Jesus. There are literally dozens more and need to be learned to have ears to hear. Just as an example, read Isa 4:1.

And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, "We will eat our own food and wear our own apparel; Only let us be called by your name, To take away our reproach."

7 women are in letters in Revelation. They are all "so called" Christians. They will eat their own food, means they will make up their own doctrine. Wearing their own apparel, means they are self righteous and they call evil; good and good; evil. Only let us be called "Christian" instead of witches and Satan worshipers. He is saying that these churches are not even close to what God has laid out plainly in Scripture. In 90-100 AD, John wrote 3 John :9, which said a Greek church would not even allow him to enter the church, let alone speak. This is JOHN, the one Jesus loved, was forbidden to visit a church. This abomination is not new.

63 posted on 01/04/2018 11:23:21 AM PST by chuckles
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