Why Do We Still Need The Old Testament? A SYMPOSIUM TO RENEW ITS PLACE IN THE CHURCH....[Live Event]

youtube/knox seminary ^ | 1/20/18

[SoFloFreeper]

SYMPOSIUM SESSIONS:

What happened back then and how can we know? Archeology, History, and Methodical Issues Surrounding the Old Testament

God’s ways with His people: How to hear God speak through His servant Israel. Doing Theology with the Patriarchs and Prophets

God has spoken and He still speaks: Engaging a listening world with the Gospel from both Testaments

[Scrambler Bob]

Naming and thinking of it as _old_ Testament leads modern man to it being irrelevant.

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Or worse, some think (maybe subconsciously) that if some concept is in the OT, it is no longer in effect, or it is even wrong.

Such as adultery, fornication, homosexuality, etc., being in the OT, were wrong then, but NOT now.

[editor-surveyor]

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We don’t need no steenking prophecies!
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[editor-surveyor]

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>> “Such as adultery, fornication, homosexuality, etc., being in the OT, were wrong then, but NOT now.” <<

You’re getting close!
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[Scrambler Bob]

Those prohibitions were so wrong that we should now encourage them?

[editor-surveyor]

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Those prohibitions are the glue that holds society together.

The destroyers have been in charge for quite some time.

[SoFloFreeper]

Well, now that the symposium is wrapping up, it is nice to see so many comments on the content of what the speakers spoke about regarding the Old Testament.

[OneVike]

Because it helps us understand why we need Christ.

As Augustine wrote:

“The New Testament is in the Old Testament concealed, the Old Testament is in the New Testament revealed.”

[huldah1776]

I do love the OT. I just finished a study of the kings and want to go through the prophets and put the prophecies in with my notes from the kings. LOTS OF FUN.

Also, I like to wonder about the reign of the Messiah and since the apple didn’t fall far from the tree, knowing the Father is good.

[OneVike]

How can one not study the OT? Christ is intertwined into almost every passage.

Studying the New testament while ignoring the Old Testament, would be like would be like teaching calculus to a person who has no understanding of basic math.

[Maudeen]

Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.

When God cursed the serpent after Adam and Eve had sinned, He delivered a verdict and a forecast of what was to come.

There’s going to be a seed - Jesus - who will come from the line of Eve. The serpent (Satan) will harass the earth and strike the heel of Jesus. In the end, Jesus will crush Satan’s head.

Genesis 3:15 is arguably the most common stop-by verse for Bible theologians used to explain the Bible’s systematic theology.

From Genesis 3:15 forward, the rest of the Bible is all about working out this verse. (Jeff Anderson)

[SoFloFreeper]

One of the most beneficial studies/Bible readings I ever did took place over two years. The Chronological Study Bible published by Thomas Nelson, has a plan that puts the historical/prophetical/psalms in order of when they happened. In other words, in the middle of a historical narrative, you'll be led to a prophet's writings that have to do with the time period in the historical book.

Man, it was eye opening.

There are one year and two year plans. I took it slow and enjoyed it very very much.

What was most surprising to me was how the book of Jeremiah was structured. The 52 chapters are NOT at all in chronological order. Very "quantum leap" like.

Anyway. I encourage anyone wanting to see how Scripture "happened" in real time to read it at least once in that format. Very enlightening.

[left that other site]

Amen! The first time I read Kings and Chronicles over 30 years ago, I thought it was just a list of kings (mostly bad). But in the many times i have read it since, I have noticed how the writings of the prophets who served under those various kings dovetail beautifully with the narrative.

[left that other site]

Good Analogy! :-)

[boatbums]

Why Do We Still Need The Old Testament?

Because Old Testament/New Testament is ALL from God - holy men of God spoke as they were carried along/moved by the Holy Spirit (II Peter 1:21). The Holy Spirit doesn't change, truth doesn't change. Jesus upheld His authority and defended His deity from the Old Testament Scriptures. There is much we need to learn about the character of God, His purpose for creation, His relationship with it all and His redemption of mankind through faith in Jesus Christ. The gospel is carried throughout the Word. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.

[boatbums]

AMEN!

[boatbums]

Forty-eight? More like 300+.

[SisterK]

Studying the New testament while ignoring the Old Testament, would be like would be like teaching calculus to a person who has no understanding of basic math.

So true! The entire Bible is Spirit filled!

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Lee Strobel's book, The Case for Christ, said there were 48, and the person he interviewed about these prophecies basically said that there was only a 1 in trillions upon trillions chance that somebody could fulfill them all, but Jesus Christ did. That's why I said 48.

[vpintheak]

Christ Jesus himself said he fulfilled the law perfectly. What is the law? It’s in the OT!
Anyone trying to get rid of the OT is of the devil. Period.

[boatbums]

I enjoyed the movie about Strobel's conversion to Jesus Christ that I saw just recently. He was probably talking about some DIRECT prophecies that can be shown fulfilled by the New Testament passages. Here are 25 that are directly related to his crucifixion https://bible.org/article/messianic-prophecies that are very convincing.

But when you count up all the additional ones that relate to Christ's person, birthplace, ministry, origin, ascension and future reign, there are over 300. The above link also goes into many of them as well as this one 353 Prophecies Fulfilled in Jesus Christ .