A Pastoral Plan for Marriage and Family Is Unveiled

Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 03-04-18 | Msgr. Charles Pope

[Salvation]

** There is much to do—marriage and the family need our focused attention. **

[Salvation]

Monsignor Pope Ping!

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I am convinced that this pastoral plan will also bear much fruit through consistent and persistent action, ongoing review, and accountability.

I'm done with Msgr Pope, he's gone over to the dark side.

[Mrs. Don-o]

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[Salvation]

**Before an in-depth discussion of the plan, a short aside is in order: While nearly all of the commentary on Amoris Laetitia has focused one or two narrow matters pertaining to a couple of footnotes or to Chapter 8, almost to the point of ignoring the rest, the pastoral plan correctly understands that the exhortation is much, much broader in scope. It is this larger part to which the Cardinal’s plan is devoted, while also attesting that there is no change in Church teaching.** Let's see how this unfolds.

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When Malta’s, Argenitina’s, Germany’s and Italy’s bishops’ conferences all approve of giving Holy Communion to unrepentant adulterers it is not a “narrow matter”.

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“Priests are called to respect the decisions made in conscience by individuals who act in good faith since no one can enter the soul of another and make that judgment for them,” Cardinalette Donna Wuerl

How is priest supposed to hear a confession, instruct and give absolution to a sinner with the above instruction?

[Biggirl]

Thank-you for the posting and God Bless.

[Biggirl]

Have you ever heard of these words “free will” ?

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Have you ever heard of these words: “sin” and “hell”?

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Have you ever heard of the word forgiveness??

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See post #7. It called confession and absolution.

[ealgeone]

It's called the cross.

10and in Him you have been made complete, and He is the head over all rule and authority;

11and in Him you were also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ;

12having been buried with Him in baptism, in which you were also raised up with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead.

13When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions,

14having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

Colossians 2:10-14 NASB

[marron]

And the key word is “unrepentant”.

[ealgeone]

What about David and Bathsheba? Could they obtain forgiveness in the modern day Roman Catholic church?

Or Solomon?

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Achdiocese of Washington Set To Implement Amoralis Lamentia, To The Detriment Of Countless Souls

[Biggirl]

What I had posted is shorthand for making the decision to sin.

[marron]

The key word for asking forgiveness is always “repentance”. Grace, from God, and repentance from you. Its interesting, God works with people who haven’t even grown to the point of recognizing their own sin, he works with people who are unable to renounce some particular sin yet... some sins are so close to peoples’ sense of self they are unwilling to recognize it... he works undermining it over time and bringing them to repentance. God amazes me in the way he works with people.

But you won’t even think to ask forgiveness until you reach the point of repentance... though sometimes you’ll start asking when you aren’t quite ready to let it go. And amazingly God works with that. You may have experienced that, I’ve seen it.

As for David, he paid a high price as did his family, as did Israel, for his behavior. He was repentant and forgiven, but a lot of damage was done that couldn’t be undone... he destroyed his family. People always say, David did “x” and yet God loved him... which is true. But he and his family and Israel paid a heavy price.

As for Solomon, he is another case. God granted him great wisdom, and yet he’s the one who introduced pagan worship into Israel and even attended their worship with his wives. During his lifetime God stayed his hand but upon his death Israel fell apart. Did Solomon repent? Its not clear to me that he did. God granted him great favor in honor of David, but his record is a mixed one it seems to me.

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I don’t read shorthand.

Have you or Wuerl heard of “sin”, “adultery” and “hell”?

[Biggirl]

Better start now please.