Posted on 03/19/2018 7:16:08 PM PDT by ebb tide
The conversation has become predictable. A friendly acquaintance — a neighbor, a fellow parent, our real estate agent — asks about my work. I say I’ve been writing a book about the pope, and the acquaintance smiles and nods and says “Isn’t he so wonderful?” or, “That must be an inspiring thing,” or, “I have a friend who would love to read it.” And then eventually I find myself saying, uncomfortably, “Well, they should know that it’s not entirely favorable.”
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
My bet is Berboglio’s name is on that Vatican call-boy’s list.
A NYT urinalist dissing the Pope is nothing new. But then a blind squirrel . . .
The ones who say, “Ain’t he neat?” are doing so because they welcome his corrupting the church.
Beloved Pope Francis inspires me to read Psalms 109:8.
Beloved?
By who?
Beloved?
By who?
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You beat me to it.
By who?
By non-Catholics, by active homos, by adulterers, by abortionists, by communists, by illegals, by treehuggers, by the MSM, by democrats, etc.
Beloved?
Well, maybe by marxists, globalists, atheists.
By devout, Bible believing Christians or by nationalists (whatever nation they live in) capitalists or sane people in general... no, not so much
Beloved by whom? By what, is more to the matter.
Douthat is actually a fine writer and a decent guy. I’ll vouch for him. He’s done something none of us has ever done: brought some reality about Pope Francis into the New York Times.
I’m getting his book.
Francis is a poor communicator with no moral center.
At the same time, Francis has allowed a tacit decentralization of doctrinal authority, in which different countries and dioceses can take different approaches to controversial questions. So in Germany, where the church is rich and sterile and half-secularized, the Francis era has offered a permission slip to proceed with various liberalizing moves, from communion for the remarried to intercommunion with Protestants — while across the Oder in Poland the bishops are proceeding as if John Paul II still sits upon the papal throne and his teaching is still fully in effect. The church’s approach to assisted suicide is traditional if you listen to the bishops of Western Canada, flexible and accommodating if you heed the bishops in Canada’s Maritime Provinces. In the United States, Francis’ appointees in Chicago and San Diego are taking the lead in promoting a “new paradigm” on sex and marriage, while more conservative archbishops from Philadelphia to Portland, Ore., are sticking with the old one. And so on.
These geographical divisions predate Francis, but unlike his predecessors he has blessed them, encouraged them and enabled would-be liberalizers to develop their ambitions further. ..
in the last year he has added a second one, seeking a truce not with a culture but with a regime: the Communist government in China. Francis wants a compromise with Beijing that would reconcile China’s underground Catholic Church, loyal to Rome, with the Communist-dominated “patriotic” Catholic Church....
The risks of the Chinese gamble are already apparent in the weirdly sycophantic language that Francis’ allies have used toward the Communist regime, and their eagerness to reassure Beijing that unlike, say, American evangelicals, Rome would never take the threatening step of mixing religion and politics...
Francis’ inner circle is convinced that such a revolution is what the Holy Spirit wants...
Ross Douthat, Pope Francis Is Beloved. His Papacy Might Be a Disaster , NYT, MARCH 16, 2018.
While for me as former devout RC, now evangelical who substantiates the church of Rome to be the most manifest example of deformation of the NT church , for devout RCs who insists in remains, the question is how to reconcile their selective dissent from both Francis and modern RC teaching with past papal teaching which basically requires broad assent to all public papal teaching. Of course, they should go all the way and become born again, and seek to conform to the most ancient church teachings.
MIGHT be?
ET; you and your fellow protesters are fully convinced your glorious leader is right up there with Luther in his ruination of your beloved denomination.
Too bad you Catholics REFUSE to kiss his ring.
When is the next election coming?
--gray haired dude in the painting
This sounds SO judgmental.
Who elected this alleged turkey?
Catholics are sarcasm challenged.
It’s interesting, though. My sister lives in Western NY and she tells me that the Catholics there just love him to pieces. They think he’s great.
We non-Catholics have been warning them for years about him and all we got we attacked. We were called all kinds of names and told that he was misunderstood, mistranslated, misinterpreted, didn’t articulate what he meant well.
It took them YEARS to finally recognize and admit the problems, but we never got the acknowledgement that we were right.
I guess it doesn’t occur to some that a more objective perspective is a more accurate one.
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