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Thank you for the nice response. I drifted waaaaay off the main theme of the thread.

I don't know what exactly the significance of Jesus' discourse with the crowd about John the Baptist . . .some say and so on (writing from bad memory). Sometimes I wonder if he played people along because they probably wouldn't accept the truth anyway.

I know Elijah went to heaven in a flaming chariot. Elias didn't die either. It is some mystery to me. Moses did die, and he and Elijah appeared to Jesus in the cloud on the mount at the transfiguration.

Yes the black ball and other things, you got the keyword being gateway (to the dark side or occult). Essentially I was only seeking for myself to find if God really existed, peace and desperate for healing and found none of those until I turned away and back to God. I don't know why I never found peace, but I do think I arrived at a saving knowledge of Christ and understanding that not all conditions are healed in this life. Some may be because we don't understand how to ask properly or other causes. We all have to eventually face death anyway. Except those at the very end who are alive at Christ's return.

I don't have faith in any particular church, although I'm a Catholic. The church is there only to guide and provide a place of community worship. The problem is a lot of people believe what is comfortable to them, and not necessarily the truth. The church is there to remind them of the truth but too often it just wants its member to feel good about themselves in order to keep them. Every spirit must be tested, but you can't test your own if you won't be true to our own self.

About Moses in the Bible (yes this is off theme), it says he grave is unknown, and no one saw him die since he went off alone. He was also seen in the transfiguration talking to Elijah. This gives me the idea (an hypothesis only) that he also didn't die, but was carried to heaven like Elijah. In any case, we are all destined for two things: death, and then judgement. What you want to do is make sure your name is written in the Book of Life. So don't lose faith.