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Following Jesus, or Following Trump?
Townhall ^ | 04/24/2018 | Cal Thomas

Posted on 04/24/2018 9:53:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

On the other hand, if everyone was perfect, there would be no need for Church, or evangelicals.

God is not running for President, He already IS.

Trump is our leader here in the USA, he’s not a preacher, not a saint, and not the Pope. We didn’t elect him to be a spiritual leader, but to run the country. So far, he’s doing a great job.

Invoking God in an attempt to put down Trump is counter-productive, in a religious sense, as they’re using religion to try to put down Trump, and God says we’re suppose to “love our fellow man”...so, the afflicted writer of this piece, is already sinning himself.

You want religious leadership, go to church, read the Bible. Religion is a private matter, between you and God, those who try to make it group-think, are looking for a cult, not a religion.


21 posted on 04/24/2018 10:24:30 AM PDT by FrankR (An armed society is a polite society.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

There’s mever been a more pro Christian President. The best leader we have ever had...by far.


22 posted on 04/24/2018 10:24:50 AM PDT by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket)
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To: circlecity
When I was in an All Girls Catholic High School, we were taught that Catholics were obligated to vote for Kennedy simply because he was Catholic...and therefore better.

I stood up and asked about qualifications saying his religion was not just cause. I was sent to detention for being impudent.

23 posted on 04/24/2018 10:25:07 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: robroys woman

The declaration of independence is there explanation.

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.


24 posted on 04/24/2018 10:25:51 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t follow Trump. Trump is not some sovereign ruler; he is the executive representative of the people. We put him there to execute the laws, and to remove the lawless actions of the previous administration.

No one running for office is perfect, but Trump made it through the primaries, and was clearly the better choice in Nov ‘16.


25 posted on 04/24/2018 10:32:23 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: SeekAndFind

So Cal Thomas is pining for Jimmy Carter?


26 posted on 04/24/2018 10:35:05 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (Time to get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Following Trump is the same as following Jesus when it comes to fighting to maintain the freedom of Christians to make a change in this country.


27 posted on 04/24/2018 10:41:47 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: SeekAndFind
Cal, when it comes to religion and politics, there is a simple choice. One side is lamentably short of perfect. The other side is somewhat short of perfectly imperfect.

Journalism is the business of reporting bad news. Journalists know that perfectly well, all others should know that. Journalism does of course report good news, of course - but they charge the people (advertisers) for doing so. But to the extent that any person knows that journalism is negative, and yet believes (explicitly or implicitly) that journalism is objective, that person has internalized the conceit that negativity is objectivity. And yet “the conceit that negativity is objectivity” is a fine definition of “cynicism.”

It follows that anyone who considers journalism to be objective is, to that extent, cynical. And cynicism is an antonym for faith. Hence, anyone who thinks journalism is objective is to that extent hostile to Christianity. Just like all those delegates to the 2012 DNC convention who booed the inclusion of a reference to God in the Democrat Platform.

In contrast, the Republican party has never had such a public moment - and President Trump promised - and has delivered - a SCOTUS justice to replace Scalia who thinks like Scalia did. That is, Christians who voted for Trump voted against persecution of Christianity. Anyone who has difficulty understanding a Christian vote for Trump should do a public service by not voting.


28 posted on 04/24/2018 10:43:01 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Presses can be 'associated,' or presses can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Cal goes to my church. Never met him personally, but heard him speak a few times and he comes across as somewhat arrogant and a few beers shy of a six-pack.


29 posted on 04/24/2018 10:43:30 AM PDT by PlateOfShrimp
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To: SeekAndFind

Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s

Give to God what is God’s


30 posted on 04/24/2018 10:46:44 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: SeekAndFind

If you follow Jesus, you support Trump.

If you are “religious” person pretending to be Christian you arrogantly presume to judge him instead.

The alternative to Trump is a groups of people pushing for Government paid for Abortion on demand. They would create polices that would result in millions of more abortions around the world.

If the overly religious supposed “Movement Conservatives” think God is more disgusted with Trumps sinful past then their indirect support for a culture that mass murders the innocents, they have a large surprise coming to them


31 posted on 04/24/2018 10:54:01 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ("The political class is a bureaucracy designed to perpetuate itself" Rush Limbaugh)
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To: lurk

If you follow Jesus, you support Trump.

If you are “religious” person pretending to be Christian you arrogantly presume to judge him instead.

The alternative to Trump is a groups of people pushing for Government paid for Abortion on demand. They would create polices that would result in millions of more abortions around the world.

If the overly religious supposed “Movement Conservatives” think God is more disgusted with Trumps sinful past then their indirect support for a culture that mass murders the innocents, they have a large surprise coming to them


32 posted on 04/24/2018 10:55:49 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ("The political class is a bureaucracy designed to perpetuate itself" Rush Limbaugh)
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To: SeekAndFind
The Bible also says: "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's and unto God the things that are God's".

I think that is more relevant than the verse quoted by Mr. Thomas, because the "two masters" alluded to in that part of the scripture are assumed to be on the same plane.

With that said, I certainly hope no one is literally worshipping Donald Trump, or thinks that Jesus Christ is the president of the United States.

33 posted on 04/24/2018 11:15:34 AM PDT by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: dead

Exactly.

Also, do you walk to school or carry your lunch?


34 posted on 04/24/2018 11:16:43 AM PDT by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: lurk

Christians are ignoring that he is a profane adulterer and kissing his hand.

History will likely condemn the Evangelicals for being myopic.
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And you will be judged as a profane liar. What do I mean? You state that Trump is a profane adulterer. Is means present tense. Either give us a link to the proof that Trump is currently committing adultery, or shut the hell up. I see significant evidence that Trump has made strides towards finding Christ in his life. Self-righteous trolls like you, not so much.


35 posted on 04/24/2018 11:19:49 AM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s, and unto God, what is God’s”

Sounds like Christ himself answers such a question about how it is NOT a case of ‘serving two masters’.


36 posted on 04/24/2018 11:28:25 AM PDT by elbook
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To: SeekAndFind

I disagree with Cal’s premise. Christians aren’t following Trump. We may have voted for him, but beyond that.....no.


37 posted on 04/24/2018 11:37:37 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: SeekAndFind

This article is a bit ridiculous.

We were presented with two options, back in November 2016:

1) President Donald Trump

2) President Hillary Clinton.

We were offered:

1) A patriot with a sketchy personal background and uncertain principles

2) A communist traitor with a background of extreme corruption, pathological dishonesty, and murder.

Anybody who had trouble making that choice is too stupid to be allowed to vote.


38 posted on 04/24/2018 11:43:09 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: SeekAndFind

False choice.


39 posted on 04/24/2018 11:49:28 AM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw
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To: circlecity

“So Cal, you seem to be saying that unless the perfect Christian runs for president then evangelicals can’t vote for or support anyone.”

Would make sense to many still infesting FR.

Unless the perfect Conservative (Rafael Cruz, of course) ran for president, then the #neverTrump FReaks would not accept anyone voting for or supporting Trump.


40 posted on 04/24/2018 11:53:17 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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