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Once Again, the Big Question: Can You Be Gay and Christian?
Christian Post ^ | 05/10/2018 | Michael Brown

Posted on 05/10/2018 9:43:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Bob434

soem = some- I’m not dyslexic, just my figners are


61 posted on 05/10/2018 12:00:04 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Mom MD
#12: "Sinners can and should turn to Christ and repent at any time in any place period. "

Amen. Jesus didn't say to the sinner on the cross next to him, "get back to me when you have 10 notches in your membership card". Jesus always preached turning away from sin, now today—not after you've joined some club.
 

62 posted on 05/10/2018 12:13:49 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (MAGA in the mornin', MAGA in the evenin', MAGA at suppertime . . .)
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To: SeekAndFind

Romans 1 gives the biblical response. One only turns to the gay lifestyle after rejecting God enough times bringing about God’s rejection of them.

Yet, man continues to create a god in their own likeness - sinful and impure.


63 posted on 05/10/2018 12:31:53 PM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: Mom MD
Absolutely you can be gay and Christian as long as you recognize and repent of your sin.

To become a Christian you MUST repent (turn away from) your sin and turn to Christ. You identify with Christ and not with your sin.

A person can struggle with same sex attraction and be a Christian. They deny their sinful lusts and identify with Christ.

A person cannot be gay and be a Christian. By identifying with their sin they are not fully repented of it. Without repentance there is no salvation.

(Which is pretty much what you said but I felt it needed more detail and explanation due to your first word.)

64 posted on 05/10/2018 12:51:22 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: fwdude

Just like many are tempted to fornication outside of marriage.

Both are sexual sins.

We need to be serious about them both.


65 posted on 05/10/2018 12:59:59 PM PDT by redgolum
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To: Salvation

Not a New Testament teaching.


66 posted on 05/10/2018 1:15:58 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: SeekAndFind
I'm asked over and over again

Do you offer the same answer each time asked?

Very often repeatedly asking the same question means they haven't heard an answer that suits them. Find something to stand on and then stand.

67 posted on 05/10/2018 1:17:53 PM PDT by MosesKnows (Love Many, Trust Few, and Always Paddle Your Own Canoe)
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To: Olog-hai

Notice in those accounts who the person appealed to. It wasn’t a Roman Catholic priest.


68 posted on 05/10/2018 1:20:25 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Bob434

I was making a dig at the liberal’s perversion of our language.


69 posted on 05/10/2018 2:44:56 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (Give me the liberty to take care of my own security..........)
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To: SeekAndFind

No.

If you are a Christian who struggles with homosexual temptation, my heart goes out to you, but your temptation is not your identity.

If you put being gay first, you are not a Christian.

I’ve been doing a lot of reading about deliverance lately and all the different sources are of the same opinion, that homosexual temptation is demonic in origin and that the only way to successfully deal with it is to deal with the spiritual battle and be delivered of the demons that inflict that on people.


70 posted on 05/10/2018 2:58:53 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Salvation; Raycpa; aMorePerfectUnion
ray:**Only sinners should be allowed to come to Christ or become Christians.**

Sal: After they receive the Sacrament of Reconciliation/Penance.

Leave it to the Catholic church to add to what God says.

Romanism is man's ways, not God's ways.

God's way is this....

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Jesus came and called sinners to Himself, without making them perform on Rome's Hamster Wheel of Works.

71 posted on 05/10/2018 3:03:57 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: PeterPrinciple

It would be no different than someone claiming that they were a Christian adulterer, a Christian extortionist, a Christian thief, a Christian murderer, and so on.

You cannot embrace your sin to the point of identity and use Christ as fire insurance.


72 posted on 05/10/2018 3:06:26 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: SeekAndFind

Can you be a Democrat and be a Christian?


73 posted on 05/10/2018 3:08:07 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Have an A-1 day.)
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To: Olog-hai

“UIM, the phrase “sacrament of penance and reconciliation” is how the Catholic Church describes that particular part of doctrine.

It is how Rome attempted to change the simple words of God, by inserting someone between the sinner and God... and turning the act of repentance and confession into a sacrament, which Scripture doesn’t do.


74 posted on 05/10/2018 3:09:47 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: DoodleDawg; MayflowerMadam

That verse does not support the so called sacrament of reconciliation/penance.


75 posted on 05/10/2018 3:11:26 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Bob434
It is impossible to ‘go and sin no more’ (Jesus told the man he healed not to do the sins that made him sick lest he get sick again with a worse disease- hence the admonition to ‘go and sin no more’ was given as protection to the man- not as a warning that he would lose his salvation- Same principle applied to the woman he told to sin no more- He told her to sin no more to avoid the consequences of being stoned to death by self-righteous hypocrites- He was not warnign her that if she sinned again, or didn’t immediatetly repent of every single sin right after she committed them that she would lose her salvation)

Well said.

Sin can open the door for demonic oppression of the believer, which is probably why Jesus gave the admonition. Especially if the person had been healed from a spiritually caused affliction.

By engaging in that sin again, that would allow for the same spiritual attack that brought about the previous illness.

Aside from the fact that sin dishonors God and breaks our fellowship, our lines of communication, with Him.

76 posted on 05/10/2018 3:19:13 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Olog-hai; Bob434

James is distinguishing between mere mental assent and true saving faith.

He is NOT advocating that works are necessary to become or stay saved.

Demons are not saved because Jesus did not die for demons and they are not offered the opportunity to receive salvation, which is why they believe and tremble.


77 posted on 05/10/2018 3:23:20 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Olog-hai; BipolarBob; aMorePerfectUnion

There is no such thing as penance taught in Scripture.

There is repentance, which is not the same as penance.


78 posted on 05/10/2018 3:28:02 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom

Yes; I know. Apparently some believe it does. Some believe anything they’re programmed since childhood to believe.


79 posted on 05/10/2018 3:28:24 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Have an A-1 day.)
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To: metmom; Olog-hai; BipolarBob; aMorePerfectUnion

There is no such thing as penance taught in Scripture.

There is repentance, which is not the same as penance.

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IIRC, the whole ‘penance’ thing is from a mistranslation of the Greek to Latin. In Greek, Jesus says ‘Repent and believe in the Gospel.’ But Jerome’s Latin translation reads, ‘Do penance and believe in the Gospel.’

This is one big reason why the original languages are so important!


80 posted on 05/10/2018 4:49:49 PM PDT by Luircin
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