Posted on 05/27/2018 12:59:11 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles
Do you have and estimate as to how many times you'll play this game until the RM gets tired of your immaturity and shuts you down yet again?
What's to be HAPPY about?
Mattress sales?
This is a day of REMEMBERANCE of the sacrifice so many have made in our behalf.
Have a RESPECTFUL day while you're out.
I offered my Mass today towards the souls of the deceased service members who didn’t come home.
I also prayed a rosary for them.
The New Testament stands in opposition to Roman Catholic doctrine on this issue...as well as many others.
23Therefore it was necessary for the copies of the things in the heavens to be cleansed with these, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. 24For Christ did not enter a holy place made with hands, a mere copy of the true one, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us;
25nor was it that He would offer Himself often, as the high priest enters the holy place year by year with blood that is not his own. 26Otherwise, He would have needed to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now once at the consummation of the ages He has been manifested to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself.
27And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment,
28so Christ also, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time for salvation without reference to sin, to those who eagerly await Him.
Hebrews 9:23-28 NASB
I think most of the time they have a clue about normal husband/wife late night activities. In the case of Mary and Joseph, however, they probably think Mary told Joseph, roll over and go to sleep, you horn dog. Dont you know, after Jesus was born, we are authorized to enjoy husband/wife nightly activities, but there is a certain religious group, that thinks I am supposed to remain a virgin, so we have to keep up appearances. Besides, since I must appear to children at Fatima, and other places, I need my beauty sleep, to get ready for it. Do you think that might be just about what Mary would say? Even to this day, that certain religious group, still thinks Mary remained a virgin throughout her life. I am sure there was a better than even chance, that Mary and Josephs other children, probably got a good laugh out of that, like ok, so how did we get here? The stork?
The book of Jude indicates that he was a brother of James; but neither book says either or both of them were the brother of Jesus Christ.
And these are the ordinary usage of these words. The counter position is extraordinary, and requires extraordinary proof.
That is sorely lacking.
Agreed.
Do a word search for "brethren" in the New Testament and see often the word is used.
Were all those people blood siblings with each other?
But as he considered these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, Joseph, son of David, do not fear to take Mary as your wife, for that which is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins. All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had spoken by the prophet: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel (which means, God with us). When Joseph woke from sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded him: he took his wife, but knew her not until she had given birth to a son. And he called his name Jesus.
Psalm 69:8 I have become a stranger to my brothers, an alien to my mother's sons.
Matthew 1:24-25 When Joseph woke from sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded him: he took his wife, but knew her not until she had given birth to a son. And he called his name Jesus.
Matthew 12:46-47 While He was still speaking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers were standing outside, seeking to speak to Him. And someone said to Him, Behold, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside seeking to speak to You.
Matthew 13:55 Is not this the carpenters son? Is not His mother called Mary, and His brothers James and Joseph and Simon and Judas?
Mark 6:2-3 And when the Sabbath had come, He began to teach in the synagogue; and the many listeners were astonished, saying, Where did this man get these things, and what is this wisdom given to Him, and such miracles as these performed by His hands?... Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, and brother of James, and Joses, and Judas, and Simon? Are not His sisters here with us?
John 2:12 After this He went down to Capernaum, He and His mother, and His brothers, and His disciples; and there they stayed a few days.
John 7:2-5 Now the Jews Feast of Booths was at hand. So his brothers said to him, Leave here and go to Judea, that your disciples also may see the works you are doing. For no one works in secret if he seeks to be known openly. If you do these things, show yourself to the world. For not even his brothers believed in him.
Acts 1:14 These all with one mind were continually devoting themselves to prayer, along with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with His brothers
1 Corinthians 9:4-5 Do we not have a right to eat and drink? Do we not have a right to take along a believing wife, even as the rest of the apostles, and the brothers of the Lord, and Cephas?
Galatians 1:19 But I did not see any other of the apostles except James, the Lords brother
Strong's Concordance
http://biblehub.com/greek/80.htm
adelphos: a brother
Original Word: ἀδελφός, οῦ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: adelphos
Phonetic Spelling: (ad-el-fos')
Short Definition: a brother
Definition: a brother, member of the same religious community, especially a fellow-Christian.
Here is a link to the occurrences of the Greek word *adelphos*.
http://biblehub.com/greek/80.htm
The word *sister* (adelphe) in the Greek is the same.
http://biblehub.com/greek/79.htm
The word used is *brother* not *cousin*.
It can't mean a member of the same religious community in the context in which they occur, because then that would mean every man in Israel could be identified as Jesus' brother. So that would not identify Jesus as anyone in particular's brother.
It's not going to mean *brother in Christ* as that concept was not yet in place and the Jews, who knew Jesus as a Jew and knew His brothers as Jews, would not even begin to understand the new birth and what being in Christ meant.
They didn't even understand who JESUS was, much less being a *brother in Christ*.
The only definition left then, is to mean physical brother.
And it would not be *cousin*.
The word for *relative* that is used for Elizabeth is *suggenes*, not *adelphe*.
http://biblehub.com/greek/4773.htm
Strong's Concordance
suggenes: akin, a relative
Original Word: συγγενής, ές
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: suggenes
Phonetic Spelling: (soong-ghen-ace')
Short Definition: akin, a relative
Definition: akin to, related; subst: fellow countryman, kinsman.
The angel told oseph to take Mary *as your wife*, not *as your live in housekeeper and don't touch her or else*.
Nobody in those days thought Mary or Joseph were anyone special and had no reason to use the word *brother* in any but the usual way.
*Isn't this the carpenter's son and and aren't his brothers and sisters with us?*
A very reasonable question not requiring the use of *brother* in any other but the natural sense.
The burden of proof is on you to prove that they did not consummate and lived a lie, their marriage after Scripture says they did consummate it and go on to have other children, a blessing from the Lord..
As an ignorant Prot; could you tell me what effect will your rosary praying have upon these dead soldiers souls?
24 And Joseph rising up from sleep, did as the angel of the Lord had commanded him, and took unto him his wife.
25 And he knew her not till she brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.
And note the use of the word *firstborn* son.
Scripture tells us that Jesus is God’s ONLY son.
But it doesn’t use the word *only* in regard to Mary. It uses *firstborn*.
In John 3:16 John uses monogone meaning one of a kind in describing Jesus as the Only Begotten Son of God.
The Greek allows for Joseph and Mary to have their own kids with Jesus being the first born while allowing Jesus is The Only Son of God.
His Word is awesome!
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