The Uniqueness of Male and Female...

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[Mark17]

A society that says we are the same is doomed to failure. We are different and need each others abilities to remain a society.

I think Satan knows that the best way to destroy society, is to destroy the family unit. In many ways, I think he has succeeded.
In the end, however, he will be cast in to the lake of fire 🔥 along with his fallen angels, and his human followers, of which there are MANY. I figure a lot of these people, will say, Lord, didn’t we do many great works in your name? His answer, of course, will be that he never knew them. I wonder if there are some here, who will hear those terrifying words? It must be awful, to have to endure that pain and agony forever. Not good, so why do people choose to go to Hell? A question for the ages.

[Mark17]

The deception rampant within Catholicism knows no bounds.

You are correct MM. I know that you and I, and others, are very happy to be out of it FOREVER. I have assurance of salvation, even if some individuals think that is committing the sin of presumption. I am totally comfortable committing that sin, except I think it’s a blessing, not a sin. Everyone should try it. They will like it. 😁🤣🇵🇭

[metmom]

Do you think God would have chosen to born by a sinner?

Yes.

He came to die for sinners because He loves them.

Why would being born to one be such a big deal to Him?

[metmom]

For what it's worth read my full post and don't take it out of context,

I did read the post and you said this, not taken out of context but quoted word for word by copy and paste......

ebb tide (post 31): Only three people were born without original sin; Adam, Eve and the Blessed Virgin.

[Elsie]

Your Bible documents Eve’s sin; but does it document the Mother of God ever sinned?

Heck; it don't even document 'Mother of God'!!

[Elsie]

If so, show me where. Otherwise, you can toss your “sola scriputura” out you car window.

I just LOVE your 'logic'.

[Elsie]

Your Bible documents Eve’s sin; but does it document the Mother of God ever sinned?

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Luke 2:22-24

 

When the time came for the purification rites required by the Law of Moses, Joseph and Mary took him to Jerusalem to present him to the Lord  (as it is written in the Law of the Lord, “Every firstborn male is to be consecrated to the Lord”),  and to offer a sacrifice in keeping with what is said in the Law of the Lord: “a pair of doves or two young pigeons.”

 

Leviticus 12:7-8

 

Then he shall offer it before the LORD and make atonement for her, and she shall be cleansed from the flow of her blood. This is the law for her who bears a child, whether a male or a female.
'But if she cannot afford a lamb, then she shall take two turtledoves or two young pigeons, the one for a burnt offering and the other for a sin offering; and the priest shall make atonement for her, and she will be clean.'"

 

 

 

 

Sinless Mary??

  Not according to Rome's Book;    1 John 1:8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.

 

That's the way it is WRITTEN.

 

THIS is the way it is TAUGHT:  1 John 1:8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us; the only exception being Mary, Mother of GOD, of course.

 Rome has made IT's 'Mary' into a HYPOCRIT, by painting her as SINLESS, yet writing of her going into the temple to make a SIN offering.

[Elsie]

Only three people were born without original sin; Adam, Eve and the Blessed Virgin.

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According to Rome's Book;    1 John 1:8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.

 

That's the way it is TAUGHT by Rome: 1 John 1:8 If we claim MARY to be without sin, we have made it up later; after WE compiled the stuff found in YOUR bible. And you'd BETTER believe it or you can go straight to HELL!!

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Guerric: …he who serves Mary and for whom she intercedes, is as CERTAIN of heaven as if he were already there…and those who DO NOT serve Mary will NOT BE SAVED.

[Elsie]

So you don't believe in free will?

When did you stopping beating your wife?

[Elsie]

Luke 1:26-38  Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)   (Rome's bible)

²⁶ And in the sixth month, the angel Gabriel was sent from God into a city of Galilee, called Nazareth,

²⁷ To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.

²⁸ And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

²⁹ Who having heard, was troubled at his saying, and thought with herself what manner of salutation this should be.

³⁰ And the angel said to her: Fear not, Mary, for thou hast found grace with God.

³¹ Behold thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and shalt bring forth a son; and thou shalt call his name Jesus.

³² He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the most High; and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of David his father; and he shall reign in the house of Jacob for ever.

³³ And of his kingdom there shall be no end.

³⁴ And Mary said to the angel: How shall this be done, because I know not man?

³⁵ And the angel answering, said to her: The Holy Ghost shalt come upon thee, and the power of the most High shalt overshadow thee. And therefore also the Holy which shalt be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

³⁶ And behold thy cousin Elizabeth, she also hath conceived a son in her old age; and this is the sixth month with her that is called barren:

³⁷ Because no word shalt be impossible with God.

³⁸ And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it done to me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her. 

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(shall / shalt is NOT 'asking' Mary if she'll do something for GOD)

(This ain't CONSENTING)

[trebb]

Good to remember that God spoke everything else into existence but got personal when putting Man on the planet...

[metmom]

Good point.

I never thought of it that way before.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“but does it document the Mother of God ever sinned?”

Mary was a sinner, like every human born after the fall of mankind.

We are all born with a sin nature - the life of Adam.

Mary, the sinner, acknowledged her need of a Savior.

Only sinners need a Savior to pay the price for their individual sins and who they are as a sinner.

Now, if you want a discussion, do prove she was not a sinner from God’s Word.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“Do you think God would have chosen to born by a sinner?”

“He who had no sin, became sin for us, so that in Him we might become the Righteousness if God.”

Yes, Christ is comfortable with sinners, as Scriptire demonstrates. He is drawn to it and has the only solution for sin.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“In case you have forgotten, the Immaculate Conception is Blessed Mary’s conception”

Man-made silliness that lays the foundation of idolatry of dear Mary.

[ealgeone]

>>You forgot one.<<

I did not forget the Son of God but apparently you forget that He was "conceived by the Holy Ghost and born of the Virgin Mary".

You seem to be echoing Mormon theology here.

Is He not eternal?

Do you think God would have chosen to born by a sinner?

Do you not think He was not impacted by sin due to unique circumstances involved?

P.S. In case you have forgotten, the Immaculate Conception is Blessed Mary's conception, not Jesus Christ's conception.

No...that is not the Immaculate Conception....depending on the ECF you read.

[ealgeone]

>>Your logic never ceases to fail.<<

OK. Show me where it's in your bible. If you can't, toss your "sola scriptura" out your window.

This coming from a Roman Catholic who places his hopes of avoiding the hell-fire in a piece of cloth and quite possibly a medal and who takes the words of an apparition over the words of inspired Scripture.

From the same Roman Catholic that will not affirm John 5:24.

You of all the people on these threads are the least qualified to question anything.

[ealgeone]

Metmom did quote you correctly. Perhaps you should take more time and think through your posts before hitting the post button.

But, then again, you are placing your hope for avoiding the hell-fire in an apparition and a piece of cloth.

To: metmom

>>If she didn't have any sin, there was nothing to save her from.

Only three people were born without original sin; Adam, Eve and the Blessed Virgin. Yet, Adam and Eve both sinned after their creation and remained in the Limbo of the Elders until, as all of their descendents did, either in Limbo or Hell.

Every single one of them, including Mary, needed a Savior to go to Heaven. So do you and so do I.

31 posted on 5/27/2018, 11:54:31 PM by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies | Report Abuse]

[metmom]

Romans 5:20 Now the law came in to increase the trespass, but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more,

Grace is only operative in the presence of sin. A person without sin will never know or experience the grace of God.

In order for Mary to be a recipient of God's grace, she HAD to have sinned. without sin, she could not have been *full of grace*.

[Mark17]

Guerric: …he who serves Mary and for whom she intercedes, is as CERTAIN of heaven as if he were already there…and those who DO NOT serve Mary will NOT BE SAVED.

Gee Els, I must be up the proverbial creek, since I am not inclined to serve Mary. I am comfortable, however, giving her the respect she deserves. I just don’t believe for an instant, however, that she is a sinless Demi goddess. Not for one second. 😁🇵🇭😊