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1 posted on 06/10/2018 6:42:31 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

I agree 100% with Archbishop Joseph Naumann.


2 posted on 06/10/2018 6:51:05 PM PDT by heterosupremacist (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. - (Thomas Jefferson)
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To: marshmallow

Using contraception is an “intrinsic evil”

= = =

How about the Abstinence method?


4 posted on 06/10/2018 7:29:14 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (You know that I am full of /S)
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To: marshmallow

Ask any liberal of any faith or none if they approve of the Catholic Church’s stance on birth control within marriage. The liberal Catholics want it ended the most. Invariably liberals hate it and want it to end. Many conservatives don’t dig it too—but no conservative Catholics.

There is a reason for this.

Freegards


6 posted on 06/10/2018 8:05:57 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: marshmallow

**Using Contraception is Always ‘Evil’**

Amen.

God said “Go forth, be fertile and multiply.”

Contraception does not follow God’s Instructions for all.


9 posted on 06/10/2018 8:31:34 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: marshmallow

Yes yes yes !!!!
Finally the TRUTH is BACK !!!
Rubbers. Evil
The pill. Evil
IUDs horrible and evil
The ONLY true method for MARRIED folks is the MAN having CONTROL
NO SNIPPING EITHER. That’s just wrong not evil
Ok nuff sed


12 posted on 06/10/2018 9:28:46 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: marshmallow

My free will allows me do as I choose concerning birth control.


13 posted on 06/10/2018 10:20:28 PM PDT by jch10 (Media: prostitutes for the Democrat Party.)
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To: marshmallow

Agree with the Bishop. “An openness to life” should be and must be welcomed in every act of intimacy, since an openness to live must be dependent on biological patterns in people. Amazing how some people are clueless. “Openness to life?” Yup.


14 posted on 06/10/2018 11:14:50 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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To: marshmallow

Other than giving moral guidance on the intrinsic value of human life and the education and avoidance of any method of birth control for married couples that takes the life of the innocent unborn, the “church” should stay out of the decision between a husband and wife. God gave us brains to go along with our sexual desires and not all intercourse MUST be for procreation only. Should we be “open” to conception in the case where the method doesn’t work? Of course! But to flat out prohibit ANY form of birth control for any reason seems both extreme and irresponsible.


15 posted on 06/10/2018 11:19:51 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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To: marshmallow

How many children did the Bishop create?

My wife and I had six, I did my part. I wasn’t goong to forgo sexual relations because birth control is evil.


29 posted on 06/11/2018 6:42:14 AM PDT by Popman (Wisdom is not what you know about the world but how well you know God.)
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To: marshmallow

Sorry, but as much as I am pro-life, by which I mean anti-abortion, I am not pro-stupid.

I think it is right and smart, not evil, for parents to exercise some control over pro-creation and abstaining from intercourse is not the only moral choice to doing so. Such a course might have been fine 2,000 years ago when little but abstinence from intercourse was possible and successful for a couple seeking to have some control over the growth of their family. Condums and their use today is not “evil”.


33 posted on 06/11/2018 6:58:34 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: marshmallow

I guess if two married people aren’t humping every second of every day to make more Catholic babies that’s evil too.


34 posted on 06/11/2018 7:05:03 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: marshmallow

“Celibate” “priests” discussing sex. hmmmmmm


41 posted on 06/11/2018 8:09:45 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (...the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light...)
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To: marshmallow

So if a woman almost dies during her last childbirth, and is advised by her doctor not to ever get pregnant again - goes ahead and uses birth control, she’s “evil”?

If a woman well into her mid forties, starting menopause, but still likely fertile, uses birth control, she’s “evil”?

The old queens running the RC church should stick to what they’re good at: advocating for open borders and Islamic invasion, and hiding the rape of boys. Matters of heterosexual sex within marriage they should just take a pass on.


50 posted on 06/11/2018 1:48:46 PM PDT by Dagnabitt
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To: marshmallow

Every sperm is still sacred?


51 posted on 06/11/2018 1:50:48 PM PDT by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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To: marshmallow
U.S. Archbishop: Using Contraception is Always ‘Evil’

The guys on 'top' seem to always want to dictate rulings about sex...


 
What is your church doing to help the male to stay true?
 




"All of this should be conveyed without having priesthood leaders focus upon intimate matters which are a part of husband and wife relationships. Skillful interviewing and counseling can occur without discussion of clinical details by placing firm responsibility on individual members of the Church to put their lives in order before exercising the privilege of entering a house of the Lord. The First Presidency has interpreted oral sex as constituting an unnatural, impure, or unholy practice. If a person is engaged in a practice which troubles him enough to ask about it, he should discontinue it."
- Official Declaration of the First Presidency of the Church, January 5th, 1982


"Prophets anciently and today condemn masturbation. It induces feelings of guilt and shame. It is detrimental to spirituality. It indicates slavery to the flesh, not that mastery of it and the growth toward godhood which is the object of our mortal life. Our modern prophet has indicated that no young man should be called on a mission who is not free from this practice. What is more, it too often leads to grievous sin, even to that sin against nature, homosexuality. For, done in private, it evolves often into mutual masturbation-practiced with another person of the same sex and thence into total homosexuality...."
- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, Pages 77-79, 81-82

"Among the most common sexual sins our young people commit are necking and petting. Not only do these improper relations often lead to fornication, [unwed] pregnancy, and abortions - all ugly sins - but in and of themselves they are pernicious evils, and it is often difficult for youth to distinguish where one ends and another begins. They awaken lust and stir evil thoughts and sex desires. They are but parts of the whole family of related sins and indiscretions. Almost like twins, 'petting' and fornication are alike."
- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, page 65


"Also far-reaching is the effect of the loss of chastity. Once given or taken or stolen it can never be regained. Even in a forced contact such as rape or incest, the injured one is greatly outraged. If she has not cooperated and contributed to the foul deed, she is of course in a more favorable position. There is no condemnation where there is no voluntary participation. It is better to die in defending one's virtue than to live having lost it without a struggle."
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Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, page 196


"And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear. Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth." (Genesis 4:9-14.) That was true of murder. It is also true of illicit sex, which, of course, includes all petting, fornication, adultery, homosexual acts, and all other perversions. The Lord may say to offenders, as He did to Cain, "What hast thou done?" The children thus conceived make damning charges against you; the companions who have been frustrated and violated condemn you; the body that has been defiled cries out against you; the spirit which has been dwarfed convicts you. You will have difficulty throughout the ages in totally forgiving yourself."
-Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, "Love Versus Lust", BYU Speech January 5, 1965. Often-used quote still used today in LDS seminary classes.


"I do not find in the Bible the modern terms "petting" nor "homosexuality," yet I found numerous scriptures which forbade such acts under by whatever names they might be called. I could not find the term "homosexuality," but I did find numerous places where the Lord condemned such a practice with such vigor that even the death penalty was assessed."
- Apostle Spencer W. Kimball, "Love Versus Lust", BYU Speech January 5, 1965


"If adultery or fornication justified the death penalty in the old days, and still in Christ's day, is the sin any less today because the laws of the land do not assess the death penalty for it? Is the act less grievous? There must be a washing, a purging, a changing of attitudes, a correcting of appraisals, a strengthening toward self-mastery. There must be many prayers, and volumes of tears. There must be an inner conviction giving to the sin its full diabolical weight. There must be increased devotion and much thought and study. And this takes energy and time and often is accompanied with sore embarrassment, heavy deprivations and deep trials, even if indeed one is not excommunicated from the Church, losing all spiritual blessings."
-Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, Page 155


"How like the mistletoe is immorality. The killer plant starts with a sticky sweet berry. Little indiscretions are the berries -- indiscretions like sex thoughts sex discussions, passionate kissing, pornography. The leaves and little twigs are masturbation and necking and such, growing with every exercise. The full-grown plant is petting and sex looseness. It confounds, frustrates, and destroys like the parasite if it is not cut out and destroyed, for, in time it robs the tree, bleeds its life, and leaves it barren and dry; and, strangely enough, the parasite dies with its host."
- Apostle Spencer W. Kimball, General Conference Address, April 1, 1967.

https://exploringmormonism.com/boyd-k-packer-and-a-whole-new-sin/

 


95 posted on 06/12/2018 6:53:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: marshmallow
Archbishop Naumann confirmed the Church’s teaching on contraception as a moral evil, as well as Church teaching that each and every conjugal act must be open to life.

I'd be interested in seeing the little rulebook given to Catholic couples when they wed.


Does the Catholic bible have Song of Solomon in it??


6:2
My beloved has gone down to his garden, to the beds of spices, to browse in the gardens and to gather lilies.

211 posted on 06/13/2018 5:08:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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