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How Should Catholics Respond to the Pope’s ‘Paradigm Shift’?
National Catholic Register ^ | July 5, 2018 | Edward Pentin

Posted on 07/05/2018 2:07:18 PM PDT by ebb tide

In view of the “paradigm shift” said to be taking place during this pontificate, one that critics say breaks with the Church’s teaching and tradition, how should a concerned Catholic respond? Is it legitimate, for example, to resist Church authority, including perhaps even the Pope, and if so, how?

Chilean author José Antonio Ureta offers some answers to these questions in his new book, Pope Francis’ Paradigm Shift: Continuity or Rupture in the Mission of the Church? — An Assessment of his Five-year Pontificate.

In this June 23 interview with the Register in Rome on the sidelines of a conference examining new and old modernism, Ureta explains where he and others believe that Pope Francis is erring, why resistance to error is an act of charity rather than dissent, and why he believes the term “paradigm shift” can only really apply to one event in the life of the Church: the Incarnation. The author also warns against the temptation to sedevacantism (the belief that the See of Peter is vacant), which he says is “no solution at all.”

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues; Theology
KEYWORDS: francischurch; heresy; paradigm; resistance
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To: Luircin
But as long as they have you trapped in being Catholic no matter what evil they do, they have no reason to change.

AMEN.

21 posted on 07/05/2018 2:57:06 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: ebb tide
The author also warns against the temptation to sedevacantism (the belief that the See of Peter is vacant), which he says is “no solution at all.”

Do you agree with him on that, ET?

22 posted on 07/05/2018 2:57:13 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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To: ebb tide
Oh but I do. I follow Christ....not the pope.

The NT is clear on this.

24“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. John 5:24 NASB

23 posted on 07/05/2018 3:09:07 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Luircin
It further illustrates why "Sacred Tradition" is not to be elevated to the level of Inspired Scripture. Roman Catholic "tradition" has changed and most likely will change again.

However, the Word doesn't change.

This point was brought out in an excellent debate I watched on youtube on sola scriptura.

24 posted on 07/05/2018 3:16:05 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

I follow Jesus Christ also; that’s why I refuse to follow heretics.


25 posted on 07/05/2018 3:22:13 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

If as you claim...why are you Roman Catholic and follow the pope?


26 posted on 07/05/2018 3:27:33 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ebb tide
Already well answered on 24 Feb. 2018, here:

"Archbishop Chaput: Catholics Need Faith and Reason, Not a New Paradigm"

>http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/archbishop-chaput-catholics-need-faith-and-reason-not-a-new-paradigm<

27 posted on 07/05/2018 3:29:28 PM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: ealgeone

You dont obey the Pope, kinda makes you one who protests....


28 posted on 07/05/2018 3:45:27 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SaintDismas

Perhaps He wants to see what the faithful will do in such a situation.


29 posted on 07/05/2018 3:46:40 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ebb tide

#NeverFrancis


30 posted on 07/05/2018 3:52:24 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Secret Agent Man
You dont obey the Pope, kinda makes you one who protests....

You mean like the dude who posts all the anti-pope articles we read on FR?

For a while there I though he'd moved away as we didn't get the numerous daily anti-pope articles.

31 posted on 07/05/2018 3:55:52 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ebb tide

IMHO, Francis it a true anti-Pope, one sent to destroy the bulwark of the institution that Our Lord Christ told Saint Peter would prevail again the Gates of Hell.

Francis is truly evil. (rest redacted)

/a confirmed Catholic (most of you probably don’t know what that “confirmed” term means, but it’s a big deal)


32 posted on 07/05/2018 3:56:58 PM PDT by piytar (If it was not for double standards, the Democrats and the left would have NO standards.)
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To: ealgeone
If as you claim...why are you Roman Catholic and follow the pope?

That's easy!

To quote Unam Sanctam, the bull which you love to quote out of context, the opening sentence is,

"Urged by faith, we are obliged to believe and to maintain that the Church is one, holy, catholic, and also apostolic. We believe in her firmly and we confess with simplicity that outside of her there is neither salvation nor the remission of sins, as the Spouse in the Canticles [Sgs 6:8] proclaims: ‘One is my dove, my perfect one. She is the only one, the chosen of her who bore her,‘ and she represents one sole mystical body whose Head is Christ and the head of Christ is God [1 Cor 11:3]. In her then is one Lord, one faith, one baptism [Eph 4:5].

Catholics follow catholic popes, not heretics. There's been more than one pope in the history of the Catholic Church and one cannot obey two masters.

33 posted on 07/05/2018 3:57:34 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Change to protestant.


34 posted on 07/05/2018 3:58:53 PM PDT by Retvet (Retvet)
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To: ebb tide
To quote Unam Sanctam, the bull which you love to quote out of context, the opening sentence is,

I've quoted nothing out of context. It is word for word from the papal encyclicals online. The last sentence is the summation of the bull.

Your quote illustrates one of the errors of Rome.....you believe in an organization over the Savior.

Furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff.

http://www.papalencyclicals.net/bon08/b8unam.htm

You. Simply. Have. No. Choice.

35 posted on 07/05/2018 4:08:39 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

“Word for word” does not mean full context.


36 posted on 07/05/2018 4:30:38 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Retvet
Change to protestant.

Which one?

Which do you recommend?

37 posted on 07/05/2018 4:32:19 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ealgeone
Your quote illustrates one of the errors of Rome.....you believe in an organization over the Savior.

Re-read the sentence I quoted:

Urged by faith, we are obliged to believe and to maintain that the Church is one, holy, catholic, and also apostolic. We believe in her firmly and we confess with simplicity that outside of her there is neither salvation nor the remission of sins, as the Spouse in the Canticles [Sgs 6:8] proclaims: ‘One is my dove, my perfect one. She is the only one, the chosen of her who bore her,‘ and she represents one sole mystical body whose Head is Christ and the head of Christ is God [1 Cor 11:3]. In her then is one Lord, one faith, one baptism [Eph 4:5].

I bold-faced the part that disputes your above false assertion.

38 posted on 07/05/2018 4:38:30 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Iam happy with Lutheran (LCMC). We have several former Catholics.


39 posted on 07/05/2018 5:11:24 PM PDT by PhilSC
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To: ebb tide
We believe in her firmly....

There is no NT requirement to believe in a church just as there is no Biblical teaching of the need to believe in Mary for salvation as espoused by Rome.

There is nothing in the bull that says one must believe in Christ for salvation.

40 posted on 07/05/2018 5:11:51 PM PDT by ealgeone
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