Posted on 07/07/2018 3:53:11 PM PDT by marshmallow
Pope Francis, ‘unnoticed, has gradually been putting women into positions of power’
Priests have no credibility when it comes to training people for marriage, according to the most senior Irish cleric in the Vatican.
Cardinal Kevin Farrell, from Drimnagh in Dublin and prefect (head) of the Vatican’s Dicastery for Laity, Family and Life said “priests are not the best people to train others for marriage.
“They have no credibility; they have never lived the experience; they may know moral theology, dogmatic theology in theory, but to go from there to putting it into practice every day....they don’t have the experience.”
Clericalism is dead, the Cardinal behind the World Meeting of Families in Dublin next month also said, “not because we’ve done anything to kill it, but out of sheer numbers.” In Dallas, where he was Bishop from 2007 to 2016, “we have a million and a half Catholics and 75 priests, with a 45 to 50 per cent rate of (Mass) attendance.Those 75 priests are not going to be interested in organising marriage meetings,” he said.
“We have to worry about the 99 per cent, about the baptised, and not worry about the other things we have been obsessed with.” (Dublin’s Catholic archdiocese, with a population of 1.15 million Catholics, has 413 diocesan and religious priests).
(Excerpt) Read more at irishtimes.com ...
My great-aunt told me she understood marriage once her husband became paralyzed from the waste down after a brain operation...
in sickness and in health...
They ended up being married 50 years. Twenty six of them, her husband was disabled.
I think Jesus understood marriage just fine, and no one can dogmatically state that Paul was never married.
While he was single at the time of his writing the epistles, that doesn’t mean he had never been married.
Says no one in Scripture. The Bible never says you have to be married to help prepare Christians for marriage, or to have the spiritual gift of teaching.
I remember her having injected her views on birth control at a gathering where Catholic Dogma was being discussed... she stated that the Pope and Priests should not have a say on birth control, succinctly stating "THEY NO PLAYA THE GAME..., THEY NO MAKA THE RULES!"
We don’t know that Paul was never married.
When I finally figured out my ex was a master of psychological abuse I went to my priest.
He guided me to freedom.
Your right. Ludicrous.
1 Timothy 3:4-5 shows that Paul made the point that if an overseer does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God’s church?
Insights welcome.
This was St. Paul’s advice to the Corinthians (excerpts)
7 I wish that all of you were as I am. But each of you has your own gift from God; one has this gift, another has that.
8 Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do. 9 But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
10 To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11 But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife.
Concerning the Unmarried
25 Now about virgins: I have no command from the Lord, but I give a judgment as one who by the Lord’s mercy is trustworthy. 26 Because of the present crisis, I think that it is good for a man to remain as he is. 27 Are you pledged to a woman? Do not seek to be released. Are you free from such a commitment? Do not look for a wife. 28 But if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. But those who marry will face many troubles in this life, and I want to spare you this.
29 What I mean, brothers and sisters, is that the time is short. From now on those who have wives should live as if they do not; 30 those who mourn, as if they did not; those who are happy, as if they were not; those who buy something, as if it were not theirs to keep; 31 those who use the things of the world, as if not engrossed in them. For this world in its present form is passing away.
32 I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord’s affairs—how he can please the Lord. 33 But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world—how he can please his wife— 34 and his interests are divided. An unmarried woman or virgin is concerned about the Lord’s affairs: Her aim is to be devoted to the Lord in both body and spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the affairs of this world—how she can please her husband. 35 I am saying this for your own good, not to restrict you, but that you may live in a right way in undivided devotion to the Lord.
39 A woman is bound to her husband as long as he lives. But if her husband dies, she is free to marry anyone she wishes, but he must belong to the Lord.
40 In my judgment, she is happier if she stays as she is—and I think that I too have the Spirit of God.
See post 28 or Chapter 7 of 1st Corinthians.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+7&version=NIV
What a pile of nonsense.
Priests grew up in a family and observed how their parents parented. They also take philosophy and psychology classes. This author is barking up the wrong tree.
Good advice!
Oh, really?
Didn’t the grow up in a family with a mother and father and observe their marriage?
Don’t waste your thoughts on this, please.
you watch your parents for 18 years or more. That is how you re prepared for marriage.
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That could be good or bad, depending on the marriage.
?? A requirement? Sources please, live sources for this information.
Which may or may not be a bad thing.....
But Jesus gave advice on marriage. Are you saying that you doubt Jesus’ words?
Send them this link for a Marriage Encounter weekend. It will change their lives.
http://www.wwme.org/find-a-weekend
Neither of them were ever married.
No one knows if Paul was ever married...Paul received his instructions from Jesus, who is God...
It's funny you would reference Jesus when he instructed Paul to tell us exacty what that cardinal tells you, that no Catholic clergy is qualified to instruct in marriage if he hasn't lived it...
Good advice!Indeed!
Exactly. I suppose you could resolve to be the opposite, but that’s easier said than done.
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