Vatican publishes document declaring a “female diaconate” is a possibility in the Catholic Church

LifeSite News ^ | July 12, 2018 | Matthew Cullinan Hoffman

[ebb tide]

The Energizer Heretic just keeps going and going...

[2ndDivisionVet]

[I want the USA back]

Bad move. You will have millions of lezzies who will finish destroying the Church.

[StolarStorm]

Female deacons and even priests don't bother me. There is precedence in the early church. What concerns me is the overreaching political activities going on. I don't like mixing my faith with extremist politics.

Was at the National Cathedral a few weeks back on father's day. I was expecting a nice sermon on the benefits of father's with some parallels with our Father in Heaven. Instead I heard a sermon about the evils of white men. It wasn't directly stating that, but it certainly WAS saying it. Even bashed our soldiers coming home from war and commented how wonderfully inclusive it was to wear a Hijab. Thank God my priest isn't a loony tune like the priest at the National Cathedral.

[BarbM]

Maybe we should go back to the first alive Pope: Benedict.

[ebb tide]

The document, entitled “Walking Together on the Way: Learning to Be the Church—Local, Regional, Universal,” purports to explore ways that Anglican practices might influence the Catholic Church, and vice versa. It was agreed to by the “Third Anglican–Roman Catholic International

Ecumenism run amok.

[Burkean]

Priesthood celibacy is not a 2000 year tradition. Male-only priesthood is indeed a dogma of the church, but celibacy is a regulation or policy that could more easily change. Priesthood celibacy was in fact rejected at the Council of Nicea in AD 325. It did not become official policy until the Second Lateran Council in AD 1139. The present-day policy of clerical celibacy dates back to the Council of Trent in AD 1563.

Prior to the complete ban in 1139, policies appeared to be more about protecting church property than ensuring an unmarried priesthood. Canon 33 in AD 305 forbade priests from having sexual relations with their wives and begetting children, but not from entering into marriage. Priests were still getting married in the 11th century when Pope Benedict VIII issued a decree stating that the children of priests could not inherit property from their fathers.

[Salvation]

Won’t happen.

[Salvation]

The precedent is with Christ who called MEN to be his apostles and the first Bishops.

I’ll believe Jesus before anyone else.

[NRx]

The Catholic Church is drifting dangerously close to heresy about fundamental points of doctrine. Female ordination is purely Protestant. If Rome goes there, it’s game over.

[ebb tide]

Won’t happen.

I bet it does, if Francis is pope for the next two years.

Look at how much damage he has already done.

[ealgeone]

That’s a lot of change from the group that claims they’re doing everything the Apostles did.

[ealgeone]

Then Rome should be ok with married priests or single priests who want to marry. If it was good enough for Peter and the disciples.....

[Biggirl]

Second it.

[kearnyirish2]

“Female deacons and even priests don’t bother me. There is precedence in the early church.”

Really? When Jesus ordained the first priests with “Do this in memory of me”, who were the females present? He decided the issue of a male priesthood; History Channel “specials” pretending Mary Magdalene was an early pope are fabrications.

[kearnyirish2]

Rome is OK with married priests in the Eastern Churches; the celibacy is in the Latin Rite (Ukrainian Catholic priests, for example, can be married). As I understand it, in the Eastern Rites higher positions aren’t open to married priests.

There is no description in Scriptures as to what happens to the abandoned wives/families of those Apostles that followed Jesus; all but John died as martyrs.

[ealgeone]

Do this on in memory of Me was not the ordination of priests. Good grief.

[Buckeye McFrog]

You will have millions of lezzies who will finish destroying the Church.

Yup. I don't object so much on principle as over the practical reality that in every Protestant church that did this the jobs were snapped-up by lesbians and militant activists of various stripes. I'm not sure how many normal women want the job.

[kearnyirish2]

Really? Was it the Holy Spirit sending them forth speaking in tongues? No women there either...

[kearnyirish2]

“If anyone shall say that by the words ‘Do this in commemoration of me’ Christ did not institute the apostles priests, or did not ordain that they and other priests should offer his body and blood: let him be anathema”

Council of Trent