Posted on 07/28/2018 8:00:05 AM PDT by Salvation
Hmm, baptism has nothing to do with sin. That’s a novel idea you’ve made up.
I continue to be amazed at how little it seems some people actually know about the Christian faith! NO human being has ever been - and never will be - saved because they are righteous enough. Even an innocent baby that dies can only be saved by the grace of God. We aren't sinners because we sin, we sin because we are sinners - it is our nature, we are born in iniquity, at enmity with God. Mary was saved NOT because she gave birth to the incarnate God but because she believed in Him as her Savior. The innocent who are incapable of acknowledging their sin and their need of a savior are covered by the mercy and grace of God.
Jesus IS God with us, He didn't need a Savior - He IS the Savior! You believe that, right???
Amen! Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to HIS mercy He saved us.
You don't believe in the remission of original sin with the Sacrament of Baptism?
You completely missed my point. My point was that even if someone never sinned, you have to have a savior, therefore the statement about Mary having to have sinned because of the ‘my savior’ statement proves nothing.
I don't think I missed your point. "Sin" is not just an action but a state of being. What we must acknowledge is that Scripture says:
Little babies and those who do not have the mental capacity to see their need for a Savior, are covered under the mercy and grace of God but everyone else has no excuse. We have ALL sinned and miss the perfection of God. Even the holiest and best people we can think of are STILL sinners in the eyes of God.
I asked this question before but nobody answered me - what do you think happens to babies who die without being baptized? Catholicism used to say they went to "Limbo" which was not "Purgatory" but was not heaven either. Now, I think they just admit they don't know but trust in the goodness and mercy of God for those souls.
No it isn’t.
The only thing that deals with sin is the blood of Jesus.
Nope. The concept of original sin is not taught in Scripture.
Hebrews 9:22 22In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.
We, how can you be so sure?
Because it says so in the Bible.
Well then, how do you know that the Bible is 100% true?
Because God wrote the Bible.
So, how do you for sure that He wrote it?
Because it says so in the Bible.
How come nobody went to Heaven until Jesus was crucified?
So why is baptism necessary?
That’s right.
If you think otherwise, cite your proofs and the support for them and how you know for sure that they are right.
Catholic profess that faith without works is dead, but it is Bible evangelicals who most live it.
Only the “new law” of grace can save or make us sufficiently holy to enter heaven.
And just what level is "sufficiently holy to enter heaven?" To be perfect as God or is a lower standard accepted? And if the former, can one attain perfection of character via baptism or a few hours after conversion? And if the latter, then where do you draw the line?
That is why some sins can be called mortal, though this is relative to the light and grace one has been given. Thus,
For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. (1 Corinthians 11:30-32)
Then there is apostasy against which Scripture warns believers. (Gal. 5:1-5; Heb. 3:12; 10:25-39)
The true believer who is saved knows that all sin grieves the heart of his Savior and needs to be confessed.
Indeed, and confession of sin once convicted of it is a characteristic of a believer, and it is the heart-purifying faith (Acts 15:9) out of a contrite penitent heart which justifies, being counted for righteousness, (Rm. 4:5), even if one is ignorant of sins. Thanks be to God.
Actually that is not true, for while performance is not what justifies us so that we are "accepted in the Beloved," (Eph. 1:6) on Christ';s account, though performance justifies/vindicates us as being believers, (Heb. 6:9) yet God's purpose under grace is that we become on the practical level what we are on the positional level.
If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. (Colossians 3:1)
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. (Romans 6:4)
For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. (Romans 8:3-4)
And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. (Galatians 5:24-25)
Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God. (2 Corinthians 7:1)
The basic difference btwn justification by heart-purifying faith which is counted for righteousness and effects the latter, versus that of Catholicism is that it makes the effect the basis for salvation, actually becoming good enough to be with God, as the Law also demands, but which Catholicism justifies by saying it is under grace that one becomes perfect in character.
And to confirm that....he wears, by his own admission (after a denial) a useless piece of cloth because some apparition told him to.
In doing so, he, and anyone else "trusting in this idol" has left the Gospel for a false Gospel.
But for it to "work" he has to do the following:
1.Wear the Brown Scapular continuously.
2.Observe chastity according to one’s state in life (married/single).
3.Recite daily the Little Office of the Blessed Virgin OR Observe the fasts of the Church together with abstaining from meat on Wednesdays and Saturdays OR With permission of a priest, say five decades of Our Lady’s Most Holy Rosary OR With permission of a priest, substitute some other good work.
http://www.sistersofcarmel.com/brown-scapular-information.php
Depends on the definition of original sin, I suppose.
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