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I will convince you of a fact-based God in less than 1,500 words
personal blog and YouTube video ^ | 8/1/2018 | John Conlin

Posted on 08/01/2018 10:24:15 AM PDT by John Conlin

Of Course God exists

The Conlin Challenge - I will convince you of a fact-based, as opposed to a faith-based God in less than 1,500 words

So you believe in science, eh? Excellent, so do I. One aspect of this scientific thinking is a laissez-faire attitude towards results. A person who truly follows a scientific-way of thinking shouldn’t care one way or the other about a certain experiment; they simply attempt to map reality and by definition must follow the facts wherever they lead.

True followers of science are therefore immune to allowing personal biases to infect their professional thinking. With that said I challenge you to reassess your thinking regarding God. In less than 1,500 words I will convince you of the physical reality of God. Don’t believe me? Then take the Conlin Challenge.

You can also watch the YouTube video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEZxE66_mhE

(Excerpt) Read more at johnconlin.typepad.com ...


TOPICS: Activism; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: evolution; god; science; truth
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Hey Freepers... interested in what your all take is on this one. Please be kind ;-)

We need to end the silly and childish fight between science and religion.

1 posted on 08/01/2018 10:24:15 AM PDT by John Conlin
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Ha. My corporate firewall wouldn’t let me go there. :)


2 posted on 08/01/2018 10:25:49 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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Bump


3 posted on 08/01/2018 10:25:55 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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Unconvincing and poorly written. Sorry.


4 posted on 08/01/2018 10:26:38 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: John Conlin

I went to the video.

12 views so far, John. :)

Oh, and there is sound on the left channel only.


5 posted on 08/01/2018 10:28:47 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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You can’t logically theorize God. Even if you could, it is worthless, kind of like learning the operating manual for riding a bike but never actually getting on the bike and riding it.

God must be experienced in order to understand Him. The experience is beyond words of description.

That being said, logic can take away the fear experienced as one empties self to make room for God.

I’ve died, fully been with God, returned to my physical body and am still with God. If we have Jesus in us, then our Father that is in Him is also in us.


6 posted on 08/01/2018 10:28:59 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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Little bit metaphysical to me. I don’t accept all of his assumptions. But interesting.


7 posted on 08/01/2018 10:29:16 AM PDT by chesley (What is life but a long dialog with imbeciles? - Pierre Ryckmans)
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BTW, I see you excerpted. If Humblegunner was still here you would be SOOOOO dead. :D


8 posted on 08/01/2018 10:29:48 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presuppositional_apologetics


9 posted on 08/01/2018 10:30:28 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: tired&retired

Read the Blog. It’s pretty good, but lacking.


10 posted on 08/01/2018 10:32:00 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: John Conlin

As I listen to the video this phrase keeps playing in my head: May the force be with you. :)


11 posted on 08/01/2018 10:32:17 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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not convinced... try another 1500 words.

a better argument, than the meat physical connection might be not saying we all evolved, but that we are connected by similar dna and that complex lifeforms may adapt, but evolving from other complex lifeforms just isn’t in the genes.


12 posted on 08/01/2018 10:32:36 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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This was the first book that introduced me to presuppositionalism.

https://www.amazon.com/Without-Prayer-Rand-Close-System/dp/0940931508


13 posted on 08/01/2018 10:33:35 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: cuban leaf

Do you all prefer the entire thing even if it is long? I don’t care one way or the other.


14 posted on 08/01/2018 10:36:47 AM PDT by John Conlin
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It's silly. He promises to convince, then provides nothing persuasive.

"We need to end the silly and childish fight between science and religion."

It isn't silly. They are incompatible ways of thinking.

15 posted on 08/01/2018 10:37:19 AM PDT by mlo
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No "proofs" are needed.

In their gut, everyone knows God exists.

16 posted on 08/01/2018 10:37:19 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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Humblegunner is not still here???


17 posted on 08/01/2018 10:39:14 AM PDT by DannyTN
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I’m on your side, but...

Where are the scientific arguments? You seem to point to the Big Bang as your only evidence - the fact of which still fails to convince some scientists.

There is also opinion in your arguments, such as,

“Today the vast majority of scientists are non- (or even anti-) religious. Few have any direct experience with religion at any level. And to the detriment of science, now rather than worshipping God they often seem to worship themselves.”

True or not, this would simply raise the hackles of a non-believing scientist and turn them off to anything else you had to say.


18 posted on 08/01/2018 10:39:36 AM PDT by bkopto
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I was just funnin’ ya regarding the Humblegunner remark.

I have to re-listen now because I’m at work and faded in and out.

Nothing I disagree with there, but it’s a little like telling a fish it is wet. I was just telling someone on a Christian site this morning that because we’ve been in this world since we were able to convert light energy into “seeing something”, we don’t fully grasp what is really around us - mostly nothing at all. It quite literally is all perception and, in my opinion, not too far off from being The Matrix. Only my human consciousness is really “real”. The rest is a projection of sorts by my mind’s interpretation of our physical laws.

And science has no way to interpret human consciousness. It’s outside science’s mission statement.


19 posted on 08/01/2018 10:41:41 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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I think he’s banned. I don’t know if it is temporary, though.


20 posted on 08/01/2018 10:42:54 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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