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More Roman Catholic Catechism Changes?
Pastoral Meanderings ^ | 08-10-2018 | Pastor Peters (LCMS)

Posted on 08/10/2018 3:09:22 PM PDT by NRx

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To: Mrs. Don-o
Bullshingles.

Really...again? Just come on out and say what you're thinking.

Per Roman Catholic dogma you've committed yet another mortal sin.

You've quite the mouth.

The Pope can not nullify previous teachings, no more than he could nullify the Law of Gravity. And to lose your grip on "A does not equal not-A" is to lose, not just your faith, but your mind.

Well, yes he can, has and probably will again. You need to research your church history a bit more. Do so and you will find where the pope [not this one, but others] has nullified prior teachings.

You have a significantly distorted view of pope as autocrat. He is the minister of Apostolic doctrine, not the master.

Well....yes he is...for the Roman Catholic....though not Christians.

Rome's own dogmatic statements makes this clear.

Furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff.http://www.papalencyclicals.net/bon08/b8unam.htm

In the course of the ages other vicarial designations have been used for the pope, as Vicar of St. Peter and even Vicar of the Apostolic See (Pope Gelasius, I, Ep. vi), but the title Vicar of Christ is more expressive of his supreme headship of the Church on earth, which he bears in virtue of the commission of Christ and with vicarial power derived from Him. Thus, Innocent III appeals for his power to remove bishops to the fact that he is Vicar of Christ (cap. "Inter corporalia", 2, "De trans. ep."). He also declares that Christ has given such power only to His Vicar Peter and his successors (cap. "Quanto", 3, ibid.), and states that it is the Roman Pontiff who is "the successor of Peter and the Vicar of Jesus Christ" (cap. "Licet", 4, ibid.). The title Vicar of God used for the pope by Nicholas III (c. "Fundamenta ejus", 17, "De elect.", in 6) is employed as an equivalent for Vicar of Christ. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15403b.htm

41 posted on 08/10/2018 7:11:32 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

Yes...He said this is my body......do this in remembrance of Me. - - -
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Your translation is wrong.

I heard from an expert it should be: Do this to re present me. ie make me present again.


42 posted on 08/10/2018 7:12:32 PM PDT by PraiseTheLord (.Q.)
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To: ealgeone
Yes...He said this is my body......

My question is: “do you actually believe what the Scripture says, or only what you’ve been able to rationalize of what the Scripture says?”

43 posted on 08/10/2018 7:12:52 PM PDT by papertyger (Covfefe Bigly!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
You seem to think the "Magisterium" is a person or a group of people.

Category mistake. Look it up. By the Magisterium we mean the teaching office of the Church. It consists of the Pope and Bishops.

https://www.ewtn.com/faith/teachings/chura4.htm

This is really to easy.

44 posted on 08/10/2018 7:15:33 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: PraiseTheLord
Your translation is wrong. I heard from an expert it should be: Do this to re present me. ie make me present again.

Gonna need a source for that assertion.

45 posted on 08/10/2018 7:16:51 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: papertyger
My question is: “do you actually believe what the Scripture says, or only what you’ve been able to rationalize of what the Scripture says?”

Am I to presume you've gouged out your eye or cut off your hand?? Or have sold all of your possessions??

46 posted on 08/10/2018 7:17:52 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: All

Holy Tradition that was handed down from apostles to the next Bishops doesn’t change either.


47 posted on 08/10/2018 7:20:54 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation; All
Holy Tradition that was handed down from apostles to the next Bishops doesn’t change either.

Except Rome cannot tell us exactly what that "Tradition" that keeps on changing is.....though we've asked.

You'd think this latest pronouncement from the pope on the death penalty would be evidence of the change in "Tradition".

Salvation...are you of the opinion like many of your fellow Roman Catholics, that there haven't been any legitimate popes since V2?

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Scripture does not change......Roman Catholic "tradition" has, does and will change.

48 posted on 08/10/2018 7:24:23 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ebb tide
>>Am I to presume you've gouged out your eye or cut off your hand?? Or have sold all of your possessions??<<

Well, you're the sola scriptura proponent; why haven't you done so?

Because I read the Scriptures in context.

50 posted on 08/10/2018 7:29:31 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

Your sola context.


51 posted on 08/10/2018 7:30:32 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ealgeone

Yup. And God never changes either.


52 posted on 08/10/2018 7:33:06 PM PDT by Mom MD ( .)
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To: ealgeone

The immaculate conception is not only not found in scripture but is not truth either. Mary rejoiced in her Savior, so she obviously needed one as do all the rest is us.


55 posted on 08/10/2018 7:37:22 PM PDT by Mom MD ( .)
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To: Marchmain

And that is your problem. The inspired Word of God cannot hold a candle to your sect. I pity you. Heaven and earth ( and your art and music and whatever else) will soon pass away but the Word oh God is eternal.


56 posted on 08/10/2018 7:40:05 PM PDT by Mom MD ( .)
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To: Mom MD
Mary rejoiced in her Savior, so she obviously needed one as do all the rest is us.

No, kidding!!!

That doesn't disprove She was conceived without the stain of original sin. And you can't prove She wasn't.

57 posted on 08/10/2018 7:46:20 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

You can’t prove she was. She needed a savior and therefore was not sinless


58 posted on 08/10/2018 7:51:37 PM PDT by Mom MD ( .)
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To: Mom MD

Every human being needs a Savior and that includes Adam and Eve, Moses, Abraham, etc. And not one of those Old Testament souls went to Heaven until the Blessed Mother expressed her fiat.


60 posted on 08/10/2018 8:09:52 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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