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Mega-pastor smears God of the Jews
World Net Daily ^ | September 24, 2018 | WND

Posted on 09/25/2018 10:56:13 AM PDT by OddLane

Despite the fact that God expresses His love for the righteous throughout the Old Testament – Jew and gentile alike – in a new book, one of America’s biggest mega-pastors claims the Hebrew Scriptures portray Him as “unapproachable,” living behind a curtain with love reserved only “for His covenant people,” suggesting He is a different deity than the one portrayed in the New Testament.

It’s the latest shocking suggestion from Andy Stanley, whose suburban Atlanta congregation exceed 34,000 attendees and a national following.

He writes in “Irresistible: Reclaiming the New that Jesus Unleashed on the World,” released last week, that the concept of a loving God is a “uniquely Christian idea.”

In chapter 18 of his book, he cites 1 John: 4:16 with what he calls a “unique” theological statement: “God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them.”

“John equated God with love,” he writes. “This was novel. This was unique. This would change the world. God is love is a uniquely Christian idea.”

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TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: andystanley; atlanta; megachurch; pastors; ybpdln
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To: OddLane

Gospel Reductionism meets Dispensationalism.

The righteous live by Faith.
No one comes to the Father except by Me.
The Father and I are one.

You whitewashed tombs.


21 posted on 09/25/2018 11:28:19 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

I feel so sorry for Charles Stanley.


22 posted on 09/25/2018 11:34:35 AM PDT by freepertoo
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To: OddLane

Sorry, Preacher, you are not original. They’ve been saying the Jewish Gd is a Gd of Criticism and not Love for a long time, and they were wrong. Same Gd, yes, He loves. And yes, He judges.


23 posted on 09/25/2018 11:37:16 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Salvation
Should I not love that great City?
24 posted on 09/25/2018 11:47:59 AM PDT by OddLane
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To: OddLane

Well, except that time HaShem sent Jonah to Nivevah (basically Mosul, Iraq) to witness to the gentiles, and shamed Jonah for not understanding that HaSham loved the Nivehites just like all His children.

And Job, a gentile, whom HaShem singled out as the most righteous and faithful man alive.

And even Egyptians whom he gave plenty of time and opportunities to repent (many of whom did and joined Israel).

And Moshe’s wife.

And Ruth.

And Queen of Sheba.

Such stupidity. I can’t believe this guy purports to be a preacher.


26 posted on 09/25/2018 11:50:07 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: MuttTheHoople

Correct. See my post above.

The Ninivites are basically ISIS today. And He loves them.


27 posted on 09/25/2018 11:51:16 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Salvation

Andy is clueless. But, wealthy I’m sure, riding on his father’s name, and even on the name of G-d.

A boy Hillary. Riding on the coat tails of another, to reshape all things into an image of themselves, having possibly nothing to do with G-d and Truth, except for rewriting both.


28 posted on 09/25/2018 12:51:29 PM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Ed & Academia are the FARM TEAM for more Marxists coming, infinitum.)
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To: Jewbacca

I know. Honestly, I think it possible that Andy is more a mental case than literate. It’s a pity.


29 posted on 09/25/2018 12:58:00 PM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Ed & Academia are the FARM TEAM for more Marxists coming, infinitum.)
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To: OddLane
The LORD appeared to us in the past, saying: "I have loved you with an everlasting love; I have drawn you with unfailing kindness.

This is from the prophet Jeremiah 31:3--Old Testament. There are hundreds of similar verses in the OT expressing the Lord's awesome love. His final expression was when He sent His only son to be sacrificed for our sins. How can Stanley deny a love such as this?
30 posted on 09/25/2018 12:59:24 PM PDT by georgiegirl (Count me Deplorable)
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To: OddLane

Joe Farrah likes hot titles


31 posted on 09/25/2018 1:02:49 PM PDT by wardaddy (I donÂ’t care that youÂ’re not a racist......The Hill just zotted me for saying libtard)
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To: OddLane

This is so alien to me

So many freepers profess Christianity yet are obsessed with Jews and Judaism

I didn’t grow up in a church with this fascination

First I saw of it was Hagee

I think Jews are wary of this petting


32 posted on 09/25/2018 1:05:41 PM PDT by wardaddy (I donÂ’t care that youÂ’re not a racist......The Hill just zotted me for saying libtard)
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To: wardaddy
I think Jews are wary of this petting

Very much so. It would be nice to be treated like everyone else. Alas...

33 posted on 09/25/2018 1:21:47 PM PDT by captain_dave
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To: OddLane

Strange.

What distinguishes Judaism from Christianity is the Christian claim that God became man. (Oops now I’ve probably started another useless 1000+ post “debate” about the Trinity, oh well I won’t be wasting my time on that).

Anyway, *that* is what distinguishes Christianity from Judaism, not to mention every other religion on the planet. Not that God is Love.

I could be wrong and the Jewish FReepers can correct me if so (and should do so if I’m wrong) but I’m pretty sure the Jews believe/d God is the essence of love long before Christ came on the scene. In fact I’d argue that’s what separates them (and us) from the Muslims. They don’t believe He loves at all, rather that He is some vengeful diety who only wants to set up some world government under Islam, by force. Again, as far as I understand.


34 posted on 09/25/2018 1:32:04 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: wardaddy
lol.

WND has toned it down over the years.

35 posted on 09/25/2018 1:33:15 PM PDT by OddLane
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To: FourtySeven
Yes, this is why the Koran and Islam in general stigmatize adoption.

Allah is not Abba Father, he is a tyrant and we are his slaves.

The only relationship is of a master to a slave.

36 posted on 09/25/2018 1:37:20 PM PDT by OddLane
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To: jjotto

Amazing isn’t it?

Churches these days love you as you are and embrace your ways. Satan couldn’t beat the church so he joined it - even though the True Church will never be defeated.


37 posted on 09/25/2018 1:38:49 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
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To: OddLane

Stanley seems to have cut the Book of Jonah from his bible, forgets that Rahab and Ruth are non Jews, and that they are ancestors of Jesus.


38 posted on 09/25/2018 1:47:47 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: xzins
The entire Old Testament is a signpost pointing the way towards Jesus.

Christ's Love: Better Than Wine.

39 posted on 09/25/2018 2:02:28 PM PDT by OddLane
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To: wardaddy

Well this topic is a personal obsession for me. Hagee is a nut who believes in “dual covenant theory”. It’s a lie from the pit of hell. Every honest person looking for answers will find it - Matthew 7:7 & Jeremiah 29:13. Jews who seek will find it as well.

All Christianity is, is the extension of Judaism. Sure Jews will say absolutely not, but if you look at the blood trail that history & the Bible shows, the enemy of both Christianity and Israel is the devil and he wants both annihilated completely.

Every Empire that has ever existed with Jews within their sphere of influence has wanted them eradicated & destroyed. Same with early Christianity until the fire of faith took over the evil hearts of men, though that pattern has reversed as of late.

Every single early Christian in the early Church was a Jew.

Salvation is first to the Jew, then the Gentile (Romans 1:16)

True Christians love Jews and want them saved.

Genesis 12:3
Deuteronomy 7:6–8
John 4:22 (Salvation is from the Jews)
Isaiah 27:6
Numbers 24:9

Interesting little stat that most people don’t know is that the greatest percentage of Evangelical converts over the past 30 years or so doesn’t come from the Roman Catholic Church or Islam, but from Jews who are now Messianic Jews.

God is faithful to His remnant (and there has always been a remnant of Jewish believers in Christ since the first century).


40 posted on 09/25/2018 3:11:17 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
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