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Abp. Chaput Responds to Fr. Martin Regarding LGBTQ Catholics, Discusses Synod
Catholic World Report ^ | 10/5/18

Posted on 10/07/2018 7:50:22 PM PDT by marshmallow

“Listening is important, and we do need to listen to young people. All people, no matter what their age, long to be heard. But St. Paul didn’t decide to ‘listen’ for a year when he got to Corinth.”

Yesterday, at the Synod on Young People in Rome, Archbishop Charles J. Chaput, O.F.M. Cap. of Philadelphia gave two interventions that included specific criticisms of the Instrumentum Laboris – the working document for the synod — and some observations about the “moral adolescence” found in developed countries. Archbishop Chaput graciously responded this morning to some questions sent by Catholic World Report about his interventions and the Synod.

CWR: In response to your remarks about “LGBT Catholics,” Fr. James Martin, S.J., argued, via Twitter, that because we refer to “Latino Catholics” and “Young Adult Catholics”, we shouldn’t object to other descriptives. How do you respond?

Archbishop Charles J. Chaput: That kind of equivalence is both easy and wrong.

There’s nothing morally problematic about being Irish or Latino, or elderly or young. These are external descriptors. They vary, and they can affect how we see the world and act in it, but they don’t fundamentally shape who the human person is.

There’s also nothing morally problematic about having same-sex or opposite-sex inclinations. But sex is a unique sort of category. Issues of sexual desire, and especially behavior, go to the heart of human identity. They involve the purpose of the body, what we mean by “human nature,” the complementary wholeness of the human species, and the transmission of life. So they have big implications for the truth or falsehood of Scripture and Catholic belief.

The Church needs to be very careful to avoid fracturing human identity according to our sexual appetites. “LGBTQ” Catholics implies a special moral category in a determinist way that “African” Catholics does......

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1 posted on 10/07/2018 7:50:22 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

“The Church needs to be very careful to avoid fracturing human identity according to our sexual appetites.”

What book of the Bible is that in?


2 posted on 10/07/2018 7:59:46 PM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: Darteaus94025
Genesis

And God created them man and women.....

3 posted on 10/07/2018 8:01:24 PM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: marshmallow

“Dance, in the old fashioned way, won’t you stay in my arms....”

Farewell, mon vieux. You are missed, mon ami.


4 posted on 10/07/2018 8:10:20 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: marshmallow
There’s also nothing morally problematic about having same-sex or opposite-sex inclinations.

I'd say that Jesus disagrees with this teaching:

Mathew 15: 17-19
17. Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?

18. But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.

19. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:

20. These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.
So, it is not the mere physical action that defiles a man, but the evil desire that proceeds out of that man's heart. To teach otherwise is to deny the words of Christ.
5 posted on 10/07/2018 8:41:57 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: marshmallow

The church and the Gospel it proclaims are what is needed for salvation. That is far more important to those who do no know God than anything else the church has to offer. The rest can come with help and love. Really how can one know the state they are in without the conviction of the Holy Spirit? Telling them something that differs to the conviction laid on their heart because of sin will not help and is more likely to cause them fractious internal issues!


6 posted on 10/07/2018 8:49:51 PM PDT by melsec (There's a track, winding back, to an old forgotten shack along the road to Gundagai..)
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To: melsec
Telling them something that differs to the conviction laid on their heart because of sin will not help and is more likely to cause them fractious internal issues!

Not to mention, hindering their salvation.
7 posted on 10/07/2018 8:51:45 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Amen!


8 posted on 10/08/2018 1:35:48 AM PDT by melsec (There's a track, winding back, to an old forgotten shack along the road to Gundagai..)
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To: SoConPubbie
Now we know who to seek for infallible bible interpretation...../s

You pretend that "attraction" = "evil desire".

The "evil desire" would be wanting to ACT on the "attraction".

Every TEMPTATION is NOT sin.

So, quit with the "deny the words of Christ" nonsense.

9 posted on 10/08/2018 7:17:25 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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