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1 posted on 10/09/2018 4:09:28 PM PDT by ebb tide
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2 posted on 10/09/2018 4:11:09 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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I wasn’t sure if you posted the entire article so I went to the link. He didn’t mention Abp Lefebvre.


4 posted on 10/09/2018 4:16:42 PM PDT by CatQuilt (Lover of cats =^..^= and quilts)
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Wow. Thank you for this post.


5 posted on 10/09/2018 4:20:57 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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Thanks for posting. I give the article 80% and B-.

Many good points. The positive is that the author provides references for future research. The negative is that the author makes deceptive arguments, such as false either or, hasty generalization, poisoning the well, and attacking the motive. Sad.

Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI “were swimming in a lake of Kool-Aid rather than the ocean of Tradition.” False.

The author is swimming in the pool of frustration. Probably.


6 posted on 10/09/2018 4:23:43 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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Brilliant, brilliant. This is the best-expressed and least partisan - that is, not a “traddie” crowing about his own special isolated world - statement I have ever read. Kwasniewski sums up the entire problem, assigns blame where it is due but doesn’t dwell on it, and draws back the curtain to reveal that he has found the kidnapped True Church.

Yes, bring back the Old Mass and the old calendar and the old office - and I don’t care about the language, it can be in Latin, vernacular (great translations had already been done before VII) or a mixture of the two. But bring it back and the Faith that it expresses will burst forth again. And that’s precisely why the VII crowd in power now is so terrified of it.

Maybe Bergoglio’s attempt to destroy the Church, carrying out the project set into motion by VII, will ultimately bring back the true Church.


8 posted on 10/09/2018 5:06:14 PM PDT by livius
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ROCKIN’ the SYNOD: A Catholic Response (CIC 2018)
10 posted on 10/09/2018 5:38:12 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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Every priest, bishop, cardinal at the Second Vatican Council was raised, educated and ordained in "Traditional Catholicism". Every sister, brother, priest, bishop, cardinal in the first generation of implementing the "Spirit of Vatican II" was raised, educated, and ordained (or took vows) in "Traditional Catholicism".

Simply returning to "Traditional Catholicism" will NOT solve our problems. Our problems germinated and grew in "Traditional Catholicism".

13 posted on 10/09/2018 6:27:07 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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