Jim Jones & Harvey Milk: The Secret History

The American Conservative ^ | 10-15-18 | Rod Dreher

[ReformationFan]

Whenever you hear a leftie tell you to "stop drinking the kool-aid", kindly remind them that term refers one of the biggest left wing villains in American history.

[apocalypto]

Others, including some of the survivors, have also revealed that Jones & Milk were close. And so were Jones & Jerry Brown and other California politicians as well as churches.

[waterhill]

Liberalism is a cult

[Army Air Corps]

Ping.

[bunkerhill7]

\ was omitted that the murder of milk is what started Feinstein et alii on their gun control rampage.
I wuz there.

[MtnClimber]

Wow, do I remember the Jim Jones, Peoples Temple thing. Inwas a first year junior college student and a ham radio operator. I was always trying to contact a new country and get a QSL card from them to verify it.

One day I was listening and heard a station from French Guyana which I had never contacted. I tried ab\nd contacted them. They said They would send me their station QSL card if I sent them a US Postal Service Reply Coupon that would pay for their postage. I agreed and sent it.

A few weeks later the Jim Jones mass suicide happened. I did not think anything about it. About two weeks later my father came into the house mad as hell after going by the PO Box on his way home. There was a letter for me from the Peoples Temple thanking me for my contribution and also having their station QSL card confirming the contact. Well, that was the first time I knew who they were and it took a lot of explaining to my father to get out of trouble. I still have the card.

[sharkhawk]

Jones and Williie Brown. Jim Jones and Diane Feinstein Jim Jones and Moscow. Any democrat in SF politics would go and kiss Jones ass. After the massacre they turned the story into Jones was a Christian leader, instead of one of their commie buddies

[MtnClimber]

Yes, they were a communist commune and turned out like most do.

[Monterrosa-24]

Tim Reiterman in his book RAVEN gives a biography of Jim Jones and a fairly even-handed story of the People’s Temple. But he understates Jones’ complete commitment to communism. He does not mention that the audio recording of Jones while the Kool-Aid murder/suicides are happening are of a harangue about socialism. He should have included an entire transcript in the appendix.

Congressman Ryan who was murdered by the People’s Temple in Guyana also pandered to the pavilion crowd saying that for many “Jonestown was the best thing” that ever happened to them. But Jones learned that people were handing notes to Ryan informing him that they wanted to leave Jonestown. It was this PR embarrassment which led to the murders at the airstrip and the subsequent mass poisoning.

[ButThreeLeftsDo]

Related...

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[RedStateRocker]

The basic fact is that Jim Jones could turn out 300-1000 people for a political event. In a city the size of San Francisco, that is power, pure and simple.

[ameribbean expat]

Amazing how we trip into the periphery of historical events.

[matt1234]

After the Jonestown people killed the Congressman, one of the alternatives they considered was fleeing to the Soviet Union.

[MtnClimber]

Yes. This is where the phrase “Don’t Drink the Kool-aid” comes from. Because the Kool-aid , this time, had cyanide in it. They had routine drills where they had to drink Kool-aid. The reason was this time where there was a threat to the commune and all must die.

[Salvavida]

Jim Jones was NEVER a fundamentalist Christian. Fake news.

[kiryandil]

The other part of the equation of the mythologizing involves transforming Harvey Milk, who authored one single city ordinance—sensibly ordering dog owners to clean up the mess their pets leave—in his 11 months in office into a colossal figure (and a secular saint)

The Narrative^©

[MadMax, the Grinning Reaper]

The real story is that Rev. Jim Jones (Love the “Rev” part, just like in “Rev” Al Sharpton - charlatan) was a raging Marxist fanatic who used the cover of religion to create his “cult” of the dispossessed, low economic poor, as W.E. B. DuBois once said, “as cannonfodder for the Communist Party” (or in this case, Jonestown).

Remember, Jones’ own people shoot those who wouldn’t drink the Koolaid as well as Rep. Ryan (D-NY), one of the weirdest leftist members of congress at that time. Unfortunately, they missed killing Jones’ two commie lawyers, id. CPUSA member Charles R. Gary (with whom Hillary did her internship on the Black Panther New Haven torture murder trial re Alex Rackley) and Mark Lane, “Rush to Judgement” the disinformation book about the Kennedy Assassination and “Conversations with Americans”, another hoax book about so-called Vietnam veterans who committed atrocities in Vietnam (Leftist journalist Neil Sheehan, to his credit, discredited this book after many months of actual research revealed that most of those who claimed to have committed atrocities in VN were either not there, not in the military, or not in combat units.

Harvey Milk is his own story and the praising film, I believe it was called simply “MILK” and a documentary about him, left out a lot of what Daniel Flynn has written about.

By the way, for my bonifides, I debated Lane on television in 1970 and basically wiped the studio with him because of his lying and then admitting that he never read any of the VN atrocity reports on what the communists were doing there. This even pissed off the liberal moderator who criticized Lane on air for NOT reading the materials I was showing the audience before he criticized them and me.

Game, set, match with the sane viewers despite the reds packed studio audience.

You’ve got to know the whole story about so-called social leaders (Lane, Jones, Milk, Sharpton, even Ralph Abernathy - who later defected from the reds - because their often is a greater “truth” than what the liberal/left media said and wrote about them.

If half the stories I was told about various people, events and organizations were true, I wouldn’t be typing here at FR, I would own it from the sales of my articles and books.

And yes, in some cases, there are photographs and documents (buried away in hopefully un-destroyed files), that might, yet, see the light of day.

[antidisestablishment]

“ordering dog owners to clean up the mess their pets leave”

I get it, but to put that single accomplishment in perspective: the current SF regime that can’t get the homeless to do the same.

[kiryandil]

"Feinstein" is a German name.

You can't the Nazi out of the German...

[Aliska]

Your comments were the only mention of the USPS but you evidently sent a donation in postage coupons or did I misunderstood.

Out of all those leftist luminaries, Harvey Milk was the only one so far to get a Forever commemorative postage stamp out of it. The USPS may be completely sold out by now, but I'd pass it over many times when I bought stamps and wondered who in the heck he was. Now I at least have an overview.

I remember the Jim Jones mass suicide and murder of his brainwashed followers and the metaphor that came from it about Kool Aid. The comparison to leftist ideologues was interesting; otherwise it was more than I really cared to know.

That Hale Bopp cult was similar but different. And I resent the comparison to fundamentalist Christianity. Any leader who would blaspheme God's word and recommend to his followers what to use the pages for is no Christian even if he borrowed some of it to serve his own purpose.