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To: dartuser
Please show us in your Bible translation of choice where the Holy Spirit is ever called or considered a “person.”

You can’t.

21 posted on 10/23/2018 12:03:55 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ConservativeMind

re: “Please show us in your Bible translation of choice where the Holy Spirit is ever called or considered a “person.”

See my previous post with the Scriptural references. Read them carefully. The Holy Spirit is treated and spoken of as a person.


23 posted on 10/23/2018 12:09:10 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: ConservativeMind

The Bible teaches that the Holy Spirit has all the attributes of personality and is not merely an impersonal force. In John chapters 14, 15, and 16, for example, Jesus spoke of the Holy Spirit as “He”. Jesus also referred to the Holy Spirit as the Comforter or the Counselor (John 14:16 and 15:26). This title conveys the ideas of advising, exhorting, comforting, strengthening, interceding, and encouraging.

In addition, the Bible makes it clear that the Holy Spirit is God Himself. In Acts 5:1-4 a man who lied to the Holy Spirit is said to have lied to God. The Holy Spirit is also described in the Bible as having the characteristics of God and doing God’s work. He convicts people of sin, righteousness, and judgment (John 16:8-11) and gives new life to those who trust in Jesus (John 3:8).

That He is the third Person of the Holy Trinity is made clear by His inclusion with the Father and the Son in such Bible passages as Matthew 28:19. Here the apostles are commanded to baptize those who receive the Gospel “in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.”

In the Old Testament, the Holy Spirit came upon people, anointing them for a specific task or purpose (Exodus 31:1-5; Numbers 24:2). In the New Testament, the Holy Spirit dwells within all believers (1 Corinthians 6:19), assures them that they are children of God (Romans 8:16), enables them to live the Christian life (Romans 8:9, 12-15), and gifts them for Christian service (1 Corinthians, chapter 12).


28 posted on 10/23/2018 12:23:34 PM PDT by caww
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To: ConservativeMind

The qualifications for a person are that they have

1. A mind - able to think and act upon their thinking

2. their own will - self identity

3. and emotions - able to react cognitively

As personal human beings we all have these qualities all of these are qualities. Another quality of being personal is that one has life. A person is identified as a self-conscious being, cognizant of its own existence and the existence of others who also have a self-identity. A will indicates the ability to think, to reason, a choice to act, having desire these are things we associate with self consciousness which is exclusive to Persons. All of these qualities the Holy Spirit has, just as the Son and Father. We find the Holy Spirit is the executive of the Father. He is co-creator of the universe, The author of divine Scripture, the generator of Christ’s humanity, the regenerator of the believer and the distributor of eternal life, for He also eternally exists.

The Holy Spirit is identified as a Person by John, using in the Greek the masculine ekeinos in Jn.16:13. The Holy Spirit is presented as a personal being with a self-identity different from both the Father, and the Son. As the Father and Jesus make this distinction when speaking of Him. He the Holy Spirit says “Separate Barnabas and Saul to me;” He also is identified as “I” in Acts 13:2.


30 posted on 10/23/2018 12:27:13 PM PDT by caww
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To: ConservativeMind

The concept of personhood is fundamental to the formulation of the Holy Trinity- God is one being in three persons. This is foundational to orthodox Christianity and was defined at the council of Nicea to combat heresies circulating at the time that denied the divinity of Jesus.

The philosophical concept of personhood is Greek and not Hebrew so it is not “biblical” per say but is used as a way to understand and communicate what the Bible says. To say the that the Holy Spirit is not a person is to disagree with nearly 1700 years of Christian theology.


113 posted on 10/23/2018 9:19:11 PM PDT by Data Miner
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To: ConservativeMind
You're joking right?

It would be a waste of my time unless certain starting points are established. For example, what are your definitions of personal attributes? What are the key aspects of personhood?

Unless we agree on those, there is no point in pursuing this.

I'm curious ... what IS the Holy Spirit if He is not a person?

117 posted on 10/24/2018 6:11:22 AM PDT by dartuser
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To: ConservativeMind
John 16:13 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.

Jesus calls the Spirit *He*.

Your argument is with Jesus.

130 posted on 10/25/2018 2:37:07 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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