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Fr. James Martin: Pope Appoints ‘Gay-Friendly’ Bishops, Cardinals to Change Church on LGBT
LifeSite News ^ | 11/7/18 | Dorothy Cummings McLean

Posted on 11/07/2018 6:12:29 PM PST by marshmallow

WASHINGTON, D.C., November 7, 2018 (LifeSiteNews) – Vatican consultant and homosexual activist priest Fr. James Martin stated at a recent conference that Pope Francis has gone out of his way to appoint “gay-friendly” bishops and cardinals in the Catholic Church.

Speaking at the Ignatian Family Teach-in for Justice 2018 in Washington D.C. on Saturday evening, the Jesuit priest and America magazine editor-at-large told students that “things are changing” in the Church regarding homosexuality under Francis’ watch.

“...Just look at what has happened in the last five years--since Pope Francis has been elected,” he said.

“First of all, Pope Francis’s comments about LGBT people like ‘Who am I to judge’. His five most famous words were in response to questions about gay people, right? He’s the first pope to use the word ‘gay’, you know, in a sentence,” Martin continued.

Martin emphasized Pope Francis’s relationships with people who identify as LGBT. He pointed out how the Pope has appointed bishops and cardinals who support the homosexual agenda.

“He has gay friends. He’s talked about wanting gay people to feel welcome in the Church. That’s a big deal. He has also appointed gay-friendly bishops and archbishops and cardinals, like Cardinal Tobin, the archbishop of Newark who, for example, held a ‘Welcome Mass’ for LGBT people in his Cathedral… So that’s one trend,’ Martin said.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; homosexualagenda; pope
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To: mindburglar
Oh, I agree 1000% I just read an article by Fr. Dwight Longnecker on the Jesuits (LGBT/SJ) that was a real eye-opener:

Two Kinds of Jesuits

What a sin-sick world.

21 posted on 11/07/2018 7:30:38 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God." - 1 Peter 4:17)
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To: longfellowsmuse

....” the abomination of desolation”... is mentioned in Maccabees, The slaughtering of a pig in the Temple is only part of it. A man will declare he is God in the Temple. The “false prophet”(pope) will back him up. BTW, The Antichrist will be a homosexual.(Daniel 11:37)


22 posted on 11/07/2018 7:43:10 PM PST by chuckles
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To: marshmallow
The Catholic Church is going to be like the Obama Administration.

Pope Francis is going to appoint LGTB and Liberation Theology activist priests, Bishops and Cardinals to leadership and power positions within the hierarchy of the Church .

When it is time for a new Pope, there is going to be a civil war between the Radicals along with their allies in the Progressive and LGTB activist community and still faithful members of the Clergy and Catholic lay people.

I do not think the opposing factions are going to be able to compromise on a new Pope and so the Catholic Church will face an extended period of time in institutional chaos and conflict with no Pope. The conflict may become violent if Antifa types hook up with the LGTB and Liberation Theology partisans

23 posted on 11/07/2018 7:48:28 PM PST by rdcbn
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To: mindburglar

priests are supposed to be celibate...


24 posted on 11/07/2018 10:08:59 PM PST by cherry (official troll)
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To: longfellowsmuse

granted I’m not a great Catholic but I’ still Catholic and I guess this is the burden that we must fight thru....having Church leaders swinging into so much evil...


25 posted on 11/07/2018 10:10:46 PM PST by cherry (official troll)
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To: marshmallow

Beautiful line: The Church has also refused to dehumanize people by defining them by their sexual appetites.


26 posted on 11/07/2018 10:38:08 PM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: NetAddicted

Just ignore that pesky Sodom and Gomorrah, flood, and Romans 1. The level of arrogance that we know more about humanity than Jesus because we are 2,000 years in the future is mind boggling. (by the way I know you were being sarcastic, I am speaking about modern theology)


27 posted on 11/07/2018 11:53:00 PM PST by LukeL
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To: LukeL

I WASN’T being saracastic. I had just read it, and found that statement incredibly profound.


28 posted on 11/08/2018 1:01:00 AM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: longfellowsmuse
"I am of the opinion that homosexuality and pedophila in the church could potentially be the abomination of desolation mention in Matthew 24"

Very perceptive observation. Well worth further study.

29 posted on 11/08/2018 5:33:10 AM PST by circlecity
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To: marshmallow

In post #17 I should have summarized, than this 1568 Papal Bull condemns homosexuality among the clergy and calls for them to be stripped of all priestly duties.


30 posted on 11/08/2018 5:59:09 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: Da Coyote

“I believed that the Catholic Church would outlast any scandal.”

Well you’re almost right she will make it almost to the very end before she is destroyed and most of her children condemned to fire.

Of the seven churches of Revelation only one makes it into tribulation and she is identified as worshipping a female goddess. One doesn’t have to do much thinking at all to figure out that it’s the church of Rome has this problem.

Read Revelation 2:20-24 and see for yourself

Revelation 17:16
16“And the ten horns which you saw, and the beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her desolate and naked, and will eat her flesh and will burn her up with fire.


31 posted on 11/08/2018 9:40:32 AM PST by mrobisr
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To: marshmallow; All
*Fr. James Martin: Pope Appoints ‘Gay-Friendly’ Bishops, Cardinals to Change Church on LGBT* More paralogism and sophistry from James Martin. Franciscus has NO RIGHT to change the Church on LBGT issues or anything else. The magisterium is immutable!
32 posted on 11/08/2018 9:52:37 AM PST by heterosupremacist (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.)
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To: marshmallow

This Pope, sadly, will go down as a detriment to the church.


33 posted on 11/08/2018 9:57:10 AM PST by Don Corleone (Nothing makes the delusional more furious than truth.)
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To: G Larry

Outstanding reply!

Thank you for posting.

Dóminus vobíscum


34 posted on 11/08/2018 10:01:47 AM PST by heterosupremacist (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.)
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To: mrobisr

Your “infallible” “thinking” is pathetic


35 posted on 11/08/2018 10:11:15 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: marshmallow

Outrageous!

Thanks to you and for ebb tide for posting this material to keep us all informed.


36 posted on 11/08/2018 11:44:58 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: marshmallow

The Bad Popes is a 1969 book by E. R. Chamberlin documenting the lives of eight of the most controversial popes (papal years in parentheses):

Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]

Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.

Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who “sold” the Papacy.

Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante’s Divine Comedy

Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]

Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]

Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors’ reserves on a single ceremony[4]

Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.

Pope Francis, a communist and Jesuit, who destroyed the church from the inside.


37 posted on 11/08/2018 2:03:44 PM PST by Jaded (Pope Francis? Not really a fan... miss the last guy who recognized how Islam spread... the sword.ag)
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To: G Larry

“Your “infallible” “thinking” is pathetic”

Call me any name you want, but your religion has the Jezebel problem whether you see it or are blinded to it.

Offer biblical solutions or it’s just Satan’s mouth piece.


38 posted on 11/08/2018 7:26:24 PM PST by mrobisr
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To: mrobisr
The NT was written, collected, canonized, and preserved by Catholics through their tradition.


Nowhere in the Gospels does Christ tell his disciples to “write” anything. He tells them to teach and preach “all that I have taught you”.

All Catholic Doctrine is found in Scripture.

39 posted on 11/09/2018 6:03:33 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: G Larry

The NT was written, collected, canonized, and preserved by Catholics through their tradition.

Historian J. A. Wylie said this
It is idle in Rome to say, “I gave you the Bible, and therefore you must believe in me before you can believe in it.” The facts...conclusively dispose of this claim. Rome did not give us the Bible—she did all in her power to keep it from us; she retained it under the seal of a dead language; and when others broke that seal, and threw open its pages to all, she stood over the book, and unsheathing her fiery sword, would permit none to read the message of life, save at the peril of eternal anathema” (emphasis in original).i

For you to even make a silly statement like that tells me that what I’m about to say is going to be way above your head. You have spoken nothing but rcc talking points noting more nothing less. It’s apparent that you haven’t even did the basic research about the Bible.

The Holy Bible was wrote by Messianic Jews not pagan Romans. The one Gentile Dr. Luke transcribed the record from those Jewish eye witnesses.

If it was collected by the rcc then why don’t you have the original autographs? You have copies just like everyone else does because the originals were collected and destroyed in persecution of the real Church and by the grace of the Lord Jesus copies survived.

As far as canonized all you have to do is read the 1st century and early 2nd century writings and you can see that a protestant Bible was already accepted long before there was a pagan rcc. Yes you rcc’s have a canonized bible, but it has books that have errors that even Mr. Magoo could see with a little bit of research. With that being said even with your added books the doctrine of the rcc is far from scriptural.

As far as preserved by the rcc tradition what a joke for a church that has made so many changes to their dogma over 1500 years. Not to mention changes that have absolutely no scriptural basis.

“The Church—Catholic from the start!”
RCC: pope unmarried
Peter: Married, Matthew 8:14
RCC: pope infallible
Peter: fallible @3, Matthew 14:30, Luke 22:60, Gal 2:11
RCC: infallible
Pope: John Paul II apologizes for the crimes of the RCC against Protestants and other groups it tried to exterminate, so either JPII was fallible or the other popes were fallible either way “the church” proved her fallibility.

For a church that claims beginnings and traditions from Peter I would have to say that your first pope must have forgot to tell you a few really important things.
1 . Prayers for the dead . …………-—————————……300 A.D.
2. Making the sign of the cross ………………………… …300 A.D.
3. Veneration of angels & dead saints …………-————…….375 A.D.
4. Use of images in worship………………………………… . 375 A.D.
5. The Mass as a daily celebration……………………………… 394 A.D.
6 Beginning of the exaltation of Mary; the term, “Mother of God” applied a Council of Ephesus……………. ——————————— 431 A.D.
7 Extreme Unction (Last Rites)……………………………… ..526 A.D.
8. Doctrine of Purgatory-Gregory 1…………………………… .593 A.D..
9. Prayers to Mary & dead saints ……………………………… .600 A.D.
10. Worship of cross, images & relics ……………………… … 786 A.D.
11 Canonization of dead saints ………………………………… ..995 A.D.
12. Celibacy of priesthood …………………………………… …1079 A.D.
13. The Rosary ……………………………………………… … 1090 A.D.
14. Indulgences ……………………………………………… …..1190 A.D.
15. Transubstantiation-Innocent III …………………………… 1215 A.D.
16. Auricular Confession of sins to a priest …………… 1215 A.D.
17. Adoration of the wafer (Host)…………………………… .. 1220 A.D.
18. Cup forbidden to the people at communion …………..1414 A.D.
19. Purgatory proclaimed as a dogma……………………………..1439 A.D.
20. The doctrine of the Seven Sacraments confirmed …………….1439 A.D.
21 Tradition declared of equal authority with Bible by Council of Trent………………………………………… 1545 A.D.
22. Apocryphal books added to Bible ………….1546 A.D.
23. Immaculate Conception of Mary……………………………….1854 A.D.
24, Infallibility of the pope in matters of faith and morals, proclaimed by the Vatican Council ……………… 1870 A.D.
25. Assumption of the Virgin Mary (bodily ascension into heaven shortly after her death) —————————————————……1950 A.D.
26. Mary proclaimed Mother of the Church……………………… 1965 A.D.

“Nowhere in the Gospels does Christ tell his disciples to “write” anything. He tells them to teach and preach “all that I have taught you”.”

Funny you say that, but yet the first written Word was wrote by the finger of the Lord God in stone called the Ten Commandments. God Himself wrote down Holy Scripture, but yet Jesus didn’t want it wrote down?

So then why did you rc’s who claim to have written, collected, canonized, and preserved it if Christ didn’t want it put onto paper? So the infallible rcc broke the words of Christ?

Scripture has been penned since the book of Job and Genesis. If you spent more time reading that Bible instead of tradition you would see that through out the OT that Scripture was penned and read out loud. You would also have read that when tradition took over it ALWAYS led to Hell and it was the written word that brought Israel back to the Lord’s true teachings. Even Christ make that observation and it was that tradition that blinded them to their Messiah.

Jesus telling His Apostles to write this down.
Revelation 1:11
Revelation 1:19
Revelation 19:9
Romans 15:4

History of God commanding the writing of Scripture
Habakkuk 2:2
Deuteronomy 27:8
Isaiah 8:1
Jeremiah 30:2
Jeremiah 36:2

Also something I find interesting is to all the seven Churches of Revelation are commanded to write, but you say that Jesus didn’t command that.

Revelation 2:1
Revelation 2:8
Revelation 2:12
Revelation 2:18
Revelation 3:1
Revelation 3:7
Revelation 3:14

If Jesus didn’t want it written on paper why did the Apostles write it down?
Matthew
John
Paul
James
Peter

“All Catholic Doctrine is found in Scripture.”

Yes it is and most of it is from Satan...
Idol worship (statues)
Mary worship queen ship and Jezebel
Dead christ worship
Bread worship
Pope worship
The re-crucifixion of Christ (straight from the Devil)
Purgatory
Prayer for the deadd

There are more, but that’s enough for now.

You sir are a lost soul of need of the Savior Jesus Christ I pray you find Him soon.


40 posted on 11/09/2018 7:20:16 PM PST by mrobisr
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