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What the RCC author of this piece says nothing about, is the amillennialist interpretation of Revelation, of himself and his church.

So, of course he’s going to say Revelation is not about the end of the world, it is about “right now.” Amillennialists believe the church - i.e., the papacy - is supposed to be ruling the world...”right now.”

Up until the Protestant “back to the Bible” movement, their Amillennialism held sway, while they ruled Europe. But, since Revelation does not support their totalitarian interpretation, their view no longer holds sway.


12 posted on 11/19/2018 9:13:35 AM PST by sasportas
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To: sasportas; elcid1970; G Larry; Salvation
"So, of course he’s going to say Revelation is not about the end of the world..."

Kindly stop right there. The rest of your comment is apparently about what you "think" he said or what you "wish" he said, or what you "expected" him to say, because this is not what he said.

Re-read this paragraph and see if certain words jump out at you:

"While many suppose that the Book of Revelation is merely about the end of the world, it is about far more; it is also about what is happening right now. It was not written only for the end of the ages but for all ages."

As you can see, he is not excluding an end-of-the-world interpretation; he's saying it's not that only. He's saying it's all that AND MORE.

Interestingly,the Church has not dogmatically defined the issue of whatever-millennialism, pre, post, 'a', pre-trib, mid-trib, what-a-long-strange-trip, etc. Saints have a legitimate liberty to take, and HAVE taken, a range of positions, and you might want to keep that in mind.

If there is "a" Catholic perspective, it is the one given by Peter, who writes,

"But do not ignore this one fact, beloved,
that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years,
and a thousand years as one day.
The Lord is not slow about his promise
as some count slowness,
but is forbearing toward you,
not wishing that any should perish,
but that all should reach repentance. . . .
Since all these things are thus to be dissolved,
what sort of persons ought you to be
in lives of holiness and godliness,
waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God,
because of which the heavens will be kindled and dissolved,
and the elements will melt with fire!
But according to his promise
we wait for new heavens and a new earth
in which righteousness dwells.
Therefore, beloved,
since you wait for these,
be zealous to be found by Him without spot or blemish,
and at peace"
(2 Pet. 3:8–14)

I will not argue further about this.

Here I bow out of the discussion.

Can I have an Amen?

15 posted on 11/19/2018 12:08:18 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Actually, my two greatest assets have been mental stability and being, like, really smart." - DJT)
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To: sasportas
SAs -- I'd suggest you read before commenting. The article says "While many suppose that the Book of Revelation is merely about the end of the world, it is about far more; it is also about what is happening right now. It was not written only for the end of the ages but for all ages." and you say ""So, of course he’s going to say Revelation is not about the end of the world..."

You are projecting -- He very clearly said it is ALSO

orthodoxy doesn't hold to a-milly whatever, nor to pre-milly or whatever milly. That yon's a non-Catholic la-di-dah.

Catholics never boarded the "End Time Prediction" train.

read The meaning of the Millenium; Four views - what you are holding to is normally called the "Dispensational view", while the early Millenial view is normally called the "historic millenial view". These are not the same

The Church on the other hand rejected both of these as excesses - Origen speaks against the literal interpretation of Revelation and promotes the allegorical interpretation. Eusebius and Christians of his time attribute literal reign of Christ to a heretic. And finally it is Augustin who settles the issue and argues that the 1000 year reign of Christ on earth with the saints is allegorical not literal.

And it's not only Catholics but EVERY Church before 1500 -- the Assyrian Church of the East which split with the catholic-orthodox-orientals well before Constantine holds to it as do the Orientals (Copts, Armenians, ) and the Eastern Orthodox.

Lately it's mostly the wack-a-doodle protestant or post-protestant sects of Irvingites, Mormons and Adventists who have adopted the millenerian views.

23 posted on 11/20/2018 6:23:57 AM PST by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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