Posted on 02/15/2019 9:33:46 AM PST by Petrosius
The root cause of this evil is disregard for the Sixth Commandment. Without chastity, piety and strict discipline, priestly life cannot succeed. Only he who lives according to the commandments of God can be a good shepherd and a model for the flock. When it comes to a path toward healing with respect to episcopal accountability, some bishops and their propagandists, particularly in Germany and the United States, do not want to admit at any price that the sin of unchastity is the root of the problem. They don’t want to know anything more about Christ who died because of our sins, only to arrive at the zeitgeist.
They feel as if they are the Church’s new founders. The “old Church” came from a man 2,000 years ago, but the “new Church” comes from them, in their image and likeness. They defend the group that they call “homosexuals,” and especially homosexual practice, because they believe it is legitimized through human relationships among these individuals. But their task should be to defend the many good priests, the sacramental priesthood and celibacy. They pretend that affections for a person of the same sex, and the opposite sex, include the right to sexual contact.
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The Catholic Church is rotten to the core.
Indeed it is rotten. The whole idea that “salvation” rests in the mythical “afterlife” thanks to “grace” means that what happens in this life doesn’t matter so much.
The core of the Catholic Church is Jesus Christ.
Ever heard of "particular judgement"? The "four last things"? Anything like that?
You should probably have made this a caucus thread. The S/N ratio in the comments is approximately zero otherwise.
The core of Christianity is Jesus Christ.
I’m not sure there is any relation to Christianity in the modern Catholic Church.
They seem to be more about global Marxism and homosexuality.
Funny how there’s no caucusing for atheist threads.
Is it that some can take the heat better than others?
In anticipation that we return at death to the state we were in before conception, I cherish the life that remains for me and am dancing as fast as I can.
...They feel as if they are the Church’s new founders. The “old Church” came from a man 2,000 years ago, but the “new Church” comes from them, in their image and likeness.
This sentiment is below contempt
The Church, is the Body of Christ!
I/we are lost without Him
I/we must submit to Christ in All Things
I/we must surrender our Sinful natures, including our thorns of the flesh
I/we certainly do not rightly command Christ’s Body
To the degree that we say my way, not Christ’s way
We are in severe error
I don’t see many atheist threads on FR. The “heat” you’re referring to is the same garbage over and over and over and over. It gets tiresome.
Yes, it does. Atheists are judged evil before even speaking.
But that’s not what you meant, is it?
Well, dance on, for there will never be another you, and you might not have another tomorrow.
I was dead for billions of years. Wasn’t painful at all.
Words of wisdom from a theme song
of the TV show, One Day at a Time:
“This is life, the one you get,
so go out and have a ball.”
Satan is as busy and successful in the Protestant Churches.
The Catholic haters can’t be bothered to read a superb column.
“Satan is as busy and successful in the Protestant Churches.”
I am not Catholic but have a Ph.D. in Theology from a Jesuit University, and as a matter of fact my wife and I have attended a Catholic church for the past few years.
Born and raised Baptist, I have great respect for my dear pastor, who was above reproach. Never a whisper of impropriety.
As a matter of fact, Pastor Martin made a point of never being alone in his office with a woman (other than his wife, of course). He always made sure he door to the adjoining secretary’s office was open, and that his secretary was present. I believe he set a pure example for the church, and I do not recall any sexual scandals at Lake Drive Baptist Church all the years I attended there (from birth until college).
I also attended a Charismatic/Pentecostal church in Jerusalem for many years while in ministry in Israel. The pastor was a fine man of irreproachable reputation.
However, I am well aware that the experience of other churches may be very different. I believe that the pastor sets the spiritual tone. Years ago I remember reading of the scandal of a major Evangelical figure and pastor, who boasted that he was the spiritual mentor of the U.S. President at the time.
He was eventually exposed for sexual immorality, but one thing that came out that very telling was the fact that, at a deacon/elder meeting, as “a joke” he passed around nude photos of boys who were attending the church’s Bible school. Yuk yuk... The fact that no one stood up and rebuked him reveals that he had surrounded himself with “yes men” who failed to exercise their God-given responsibilities as deacons and elders.
Besides that, at different times in my life I have attended two mega-Evangelical churches in different states with thousands attending - in each case for many years. (I am a senior citizen!) In both cases the youth pastor was exposed for making sexual advances against his charges. And in both cases, after being exposed the individuals in question drove in their cars out into the countryside and shot themselves to death.
I do not pretend to make any comparisons between the incidence of sexual improprieties in Protestant versus Catholic churches. I would guess they are roughly equivalent. However, the vow of celibacy that Catholic priests are required to take does, in my opinion, perhaps contributes to a greater temptation with regards to illicit sexual activity.
I will say that many years later I heard that my major Jesuit professor and dissertation director was forced to leave the university after 20 years because of a sexual allegation. He had a national reputation for opposing the “revisionist theology” in vogue at the time, and for standing for traditional teachings.
My recollections of him were of a brilliant theologian and fine person, although there was one instance (in some 5 years of association) where I detected what I suspected was an inappropriate situation, but I may be mistaken. In general I hold my Jesuit professors in high regard.
But then again, I also had many fine Protestant theologians through the years, not one of which do I recall went out of their way to speak negatively about the Catholic church.
The main attitude, which I still hold, is that the Lord Jesus Christ accepts all those who put their trust in Him, desire to live a pure and obedient life, and who hold to the central doctrines of the Faith, so divinely set forth in, e.g., the Nicene Creed. I do believe that anyone, Protestant or Catholic or Orthodox, who gives wholehearted affirmation to the Great Creeds of the Church (Apostles, Nicene, Chalcedon, etc.) is doctrinally a true Christian. Now, we must be careful to add that many of those fallen leaders may have been doctrinally correct, but failed to obey their Lord: “Why do you call me Lord, and you do not do as I say?”
As a postnote, I have no problem with Real Presence, which after all does exactly what Protestants are so proud of themselves about: taking the Word of God literally.
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