Posted on 06/18/2019 10:08:13 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
America’s youth are leaving churches in droves...Yet amidst this exodus, some church leaders have identified another movement as cause for hope: rather than abandoning Christianity, some young people are joining more traditional, liturgical denominations—notably the Roman Catholic, Anglican, and Orthodox branches of the faith. This trend is deeper than denominational waffling: it’s a search for meaning that goes to the heart of our postmodern age.
For high-school English teacher Jesse Cone, joining the Orthodox Church fulfilled a deep yearning for community and sacramental reality... “When I look at a Protestant service, it lacks the mystery and power of the body of Christ.”
For Bart Gingerich, a fellow with the Institute on Religion and Democracy and a student at Reformed Episcopal Seminary, becoming Anglican was an intellectual journey steeped in the thought of ancient church fathers...
While attending Patrick Henry College in Virginia, Gingerich joined a reformed Baptist church in the nearby town of Guilford. Gingerich read St. Augustine and connected strongly with his thought...Could he really believe that the church “didn’t start getting it right” till the Reformation?
(Excerpt) Read more at theamericanconservative.com ...
Thanks for posting. I enjoyed the link you had posted earlier on a different thread but it was deleted.
Great halls and soaring music may look and feel like worship of God and be just so much trappings to keep a prideful soul from being the broken and contrite spirit God will ALWAYS grasp onto and seal with His Holy Spirit. False religion is packaged to appeal to the emotions and the mental gymnastics which stroke the pride. The sexual degenerate community is captivated with such 'high church' religion while the spirit remains dead in trespasses and sins which pride will not let the person discard.
Well, it’s easier than thinking...
“Could he really believe that the church “didn’t start getting it right” till the Reformation?”
Burning thousands of people at the stake, papal armies engaging in warfare, forbidding Bible printing or reading, torture, etc.
There is a ton of evidence that they didn’t have Christ’s message right back then. Not even close....
There is a ton of evidence that they didn’t have Christ’s message right back then. Not even close....and Calvin and Luther were also wrong about lots of things. They simply did not have access to information we have at our fingertips today.
There is really nobody from that era you should slavishly follow. All of them, Protestant or Roman Catholic believed in witches and other nutty theories we roll our eyes at today.
Raised Southern Baptist, then married into Lutheran, I did enjoy the structure of liturgy. It had been my impression for decades that Baptist services were heavy on emotional manipulation, which became predictable and a little insulting.
The Lutheran services were, the only word that comes to mind, mature in comparison.
Strawman argument. Just as it takes a boat a while to collect barnacles, so to the accretion of errors in the church. But even in time of the Apostles, there were errors creeping in.
The early reformers did not reject the teachings of the RC and EO churches, but kept those which corresponded to the scriptures.
Too all-inclusive because you imply (by deletion) that all the ages of Christendom, for the first 1500 years, were characterized by these crimes, while omitting all mention of the God-pleasing saints and scholars, the artists and benefactors, the scientists,missionaries, pray-ers and singers, confessors and martyrs as if they did not exist --- or if it is conceded that they did exist, that they did not matter
Not inclusive enough, because you seem unaware that the sinfulness of Jesus' own hand-picked men, His Apostles , began before He even died, by their prompt and overwhelming denial, betrayal, and desertion; the general pattern of sinfulness reported in every one of the epistles of Paul (and Peter, James, John, Jude, and the author of Hebrews) concerning every one of the churches which they planted and visited.
God knew who He was working with, that He was dealing with sinners. It didn't surprise Him. It seems to surprise you.
Moreover, the very same characteristics make their awful appearance throughout non-Catholic Christendom, as the Protestants-Reformers-Evangelicals, being sinners, sinned. If you're not familiar with that, I'd be available to bring you up to speed.
My bottom line is: well, tagline:
Ha! Even the witches believed in witches. How ‘bout that!
Ping!
And a plug for the LCMS, the orthodox form of Lutheranism.
I've also attended a Traditional Anglican church and found the liturgy and statements of belief quite Biblically sound.
Have Christ; don’t need liturgy or formalism. Certainly don’t need to surrender my Christian liberty to denominational hierarchies.
Is that the interior of Notre Dame in the first post?
bkmk
Mrs. Don-o: Critical thinking requires circumspection, perspective and historic accuracy. Usually but not always, I agree with you. In your reply to DesertRhino & CondoleezzaProtege, I think you nail it. You offer an accurate perspective of the church historically and the imperfect humans who’ve possess it. Thanks for your insight and knowledge!
"The sexual degenerate community is captivated with such 'high church' religion while the spirit remains dead in trespasses and sins which pride will not let the person discard."
You nailed it.
Remember that the liturgical branches of the Christian Faith has STRUCTURE.
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