[Campion]

The remaining witness felt compelled to testify after his friends death feeling like it was this abuse that led him to commit suicide.

The friend who killed himself told his own mother that he was never abused.

[Campion]

I don't know whether Cardinal Pell is innocent or not. The accuser's story sounds implausible on a number of levels.

I do know that I am not impressed with the tendency to dump Catholics' civil rights overboard on display in this thread.

Hear this: In a free society, you do not get to deny people due process of law or the presumption of innocence because they belong to a group you don't like. You don't get to deny people due process of law or the presumption of innocence because you're certain they're guilty of something somehow, even if they're innocent of the charge that has been brought. You don't get to deny people due process of law or the presumption of innocence because other people who belong to the same group did bad things (i.e., "guilt by association").

In Germany in the 1940's, it was wrong to deny people due process of law and the presumption of innocence because they were Jewish, or Gypsy, or Polish.

It remains just as wrong if you change "Germany" to "Australia" or "America" and change "Jewish" to "Catholic" or "Muslim" or "Buddhist".

Sometimes this place sounds a lot more like NascentCriminalDictatorship than FreeRepublic.

[BipolarBob]

That doesn’t mean anything. Denial causes things like that.