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To: MurphsLaw
"Your DIY man made “Bible Faith” that was invented decades ago...converts mostly dissenters... The One Holy Apostolic Church has to go out into the world as if always has..."

Rather, it remains that it is mostly RC (even more so then the EO's) distinctive teachings are not manifest in the only wholly inspired substantive authoritative record of what the NT church believed (which is Scripture, in particular Acts through Revelation, which best shows how the NT church understood the gospels).

Of course, multitudes of your TradCath brethren that you are in dissent from also think that your modern Bergoglio church is contrary to many ancient teachings (true), while liberal Prot churches that like your pope have their own serious ssues, while traditional evangelicals overall typically testify to an essential unity greater than their tribal divisions, but are in need of revival.

25 posted on 06/14/2021 5:32:33 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: daniel1212
"mostly RC (even more so then the EO's) distinctive teachings are not manifest in the only wholly inspired...NT Church...

WHICH NT Church are you referring to here? The one of Apollos ? Paul, Cephas- OR Christ??- The NT Church did understand the fulfillment of the Jewish Sacrifice, the Priesthood serving God and Eucharistic devotion (documented of the Essenes) through OT Scripture - passing through from the Resurrection - Establishing in a form to go forward with... (Even establishing a Treasury !) You will not find perfect conformity anywhere- it does not exist... with man, it is impossible. But what you will find in the early Church writings of that time is the development of the Church- which would need man to pass it on. And that structure is found - still to this day - in the Mass. Do you find early Church beliefs anywhere else in today's world?

You keep trying to force this human nature, this man, into God's Kingdom he is building...Trad caths, Rad-Trads - Glad trads- ..Bergoglio.. Biden Pelosi- all of us flawed sinners do.not.define. the essence of the Church - nor it's mission. And unfortunately, Where you find God, you will ALSO find Evil... that is the existence we must navigate.

Your need is to turn to Bible study and scholarship (which you excel in, and find comfort in) just as the Jewish scholars did in leading up to Christ's time... And desire to make that the focus of your Faith path. It can't be, because eventually God's word will be usurped by man, as we find in the NT.(as modern Christian culture has perverted as well)

The Word does lead, "useful as a guide"- but it cannot accomplish - it cannot do God's will on its own. It cannot fulfill the commandments - That's the need of the Church, from it's beginning. It was not a whim of God to build this Church as he promised.

We need to be reminded all of this dies away with us, and must be passed on. But God's Kingdom does not stop being built - ever. I posted a sermon on this exact thing yesterday - no need to watch... It was God tells us in Ezekiel 17... He is building a Kingdom... The Babylonians tried, the Egyptians tried- the Romans, The Spanish, French, and British- Germany Russia America, China- ALL these Kingdoms have, and will die away- man's attempt to contravene God building his Kingdom is no match... only tower building.

Bad Popes- Good Popes... Man has been given responsibility- but the Holy Spirit will always be there... the rest will die away.. But The Church will always remain in the form necessary to bring, and keep, our souls, and others, to Christ in order that we may fully participate in his Kingdom.
As that is it's sole purpose of his Church- nothing else.
26 posted on 06/15/2021 10:46:30 AM PDT by MurphsLaw (“I beseech you, brethren, to mark them who make dissensions and offences contrary to the doctrine”)
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