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Final Thoughts on the Heart for Muslims Conference
Youtube ^ | 11/28/19 | Gerard Perry

Posted on 11/27/2019 9:42:23 PM PST by OddLane

I give some parting thoughts on my experience at and impressions of the Heart for Muslims Conference. I also explain why I believe James White's approach to evangelizing Islam is wrong. Both from a utilitarian perspective-and detrimental to the goal of winning souls-and why it is dangerous for the Church itself.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Evangelical Christian; Islam
KEYWORDS: apologetics; jameswhite

1 posted on 11/27/2019 9:42:23 PM PST by OddLane
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To: OddLane

Islam is a death cult and war plan

It’s prophet was a psychotic pedophile who murdered and enslaved his life until he was murdered

No reform is possible. Only defeat


2 posted on 11/27/2019 10:02:22 PM PST by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: OddLane

Barry OCrapstain’s “charter of negative liberties” is akin to “DEFENSIVE JIHAD”.
These MOFOS are BEYOND EVIL.


3 posted on 11/27/2019 10:26:54 PM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: All

FUBO


4 posted on 11/27/2019 10:29:22 PM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: OddLane; Chode

Just Who the H€££ came up with this stupid idea ?


5 posted on 11/28/2019 3:56:59 AM PST by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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To: OddLane

James White gives a clear and uncompromising explanation of the gospel. I can’t watch your video now as I’m in work but the man has affected many lives through his debates over the years. He is an outstanding teacher and apologist. Is the problem that he is too friendly?


6 posted on 11/28/2019 5:02:21 AM PST by winslow
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To: Truthoverpower

I disagree in part. Of course many if not most muslims are completely evil and need to be put down like rabid dogs. But the Gospel is making massive inroads in many parts of the world, including North Africa.

I know a missionary to that area who reports tremendous successes with the Bibles and literature he distributes.

No one is beyond salvation.


7 posted on 11/28/2019 6:08:39 AM PST by cyclotic (Democrats must be politically eviscerated, disemboweled and demolished.)
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To: winslow
Not too friendly, too accommodating. One of the best quotes I took away from this conference was uttered by an Arab woman who used to be a Muslim. She said "don't make the Bible small."

That's what James White does when he invites people who worship demons to take the stage with him in the name of "dialogue."

I have no problem publicly debating Muslims on fair terms, i.e. in neutral venues, with no Islamic "prayers," and not hosted by Muslim Brotherhood affiliated groups, like the Muslim Students' Association.

I also believe Muslims should hear the gospel.

But I don't think you should give falsehood an equal stage with truth, which is what James White does-and why Muslim apologists repeatedly re-upload carefully edited, bowdlerized portions of The Firing Line to their channels.

You'll never find a single minute of a Sam Shamoun, or David Wood, or Christian Prince monologue about Islam that a dawah propagandist or Muslim apologist would find suitable to his channel.

That's because they never give Islam an ounce of respect-because it doesn't deserve any.

8 posted on 11/28/2019 11:55:23 AM PST by OddLane
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To: OddLane

David Wood does some great work, but he will never be invited to debate in a mosque, as James White was in South Africa because he is disrespectful and mocking at times. “Islamicize me” series proves my point, however funny it may have been. I can’t stand Islam, but I will always be respectful, while holding fast to the truth of the gospel because who knows who God is going to save?

As for Muslims quoting portions of the dividing line, it doesn’t prove a thing. I heard Ravi Zacharias talk once about a Christian in Malaysia who debated Ahmed Deedat and Deedat asked how he could take the teachings of Jesus literally and he slapped him to see if he would turn the other cheek. Apparently the guy did just that, and lots of muslims supported him after and thought Deedat had behaved disgracefully. They don’t play by our rules, but that doesn’t mean we have to stoop to their level.


9 posted on 11/30/2019 10:13:38 AM PST by winslow
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To: winslow
It's not that. My point is that you should never give the sons of darkness any comfort that what they believe is the truth.

No one, not even the most nimble editor at the Daily Show, could take even a minute-long piece of one of David Wood's videos and make it seem as if he had something good to say about Islam-because he never affords them that opportunity.

I have no problem debating a Muslim in a mosque-and presenting the gospel-but when you shouldn't invite the sons of Belial into any house of worship where men and women meet in Jesus's name.

David Wood and Christian Prince never disrespect Muslims, but they also never accord any respect to their false prophet or their idiotic religion.

10 posted on 11/30/2019 11:53:45 AM PST by OddLane
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To: OddLane
The Islamic goal of global conquest is getting assistance from those in West who continue peddling the lie that there are “moderate” muslims.
11 posted on 11/30/2019 12:06:39 PM PST by deadrock
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To: OddLane

I don’t think James White has ever said or even indicated that Muslims, or anyone else can be saved apart from believing in Jesus as our God and saviour and repenting. I’ve been following his ministry for a while and he is as solid in matters of doctrine as you can get.

I’ve heard White complain about some Christians being unfriendly and even hostile to muslims, but I’ve never witnessed him compromising the message. If you can find a quote of him saying something wrong then fair enough. As for inviting muslims to church, it depends what happens when they are invited. If the gospel if presented to them and their belief system is challenged then okay. I wouldn’t feel comfortable with them praying to their god in a church though.


12 posted on 12/01/2019 1:07:25 PM PST by winslow
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To: winslow

They never attend a church to be converted, rather they are mandated to enter churches with the idea of converting you.......and we all know the enemy of God is at the door welcoming them in.


13 posted on 12/01/2019 1:14:11 PM PST by caww
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To: cyclotic

Note that muslims are being converted in their own nations...not here...here they’re recruting and converting people to Islam...and mandated to do so..


14 posted on 12/01/2019 1:16:04 PM PST by caww
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To: cyclotic

Note that muslims are being converted in their own nations...not here...here they’re recruting and converting people to Islam...and mandated to do so..


15 posted on 12/01/2019 1:16:05 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

I agree with keeping them there. Absolutely


16 posted on 12/01/2019 3:32:04 PM PST by cyclotic (Democrats must be politically eviscerated, disemboweled and demolished.)
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To: caww

I’ve never known someone who I thought was a strong Christian who converted to Islam. I believe that God is able (and willing) to keep us from falling. We are commanded to preach the gospel to all peoples. We should be making the most of every opportunity.

Salvation is of the Lord so it doesn’t matter if a muslim has no intention of converting if God has other plans. If it was up to us nobody would ever be saved.


17 posted on 12/02/2019 12:35:10 PM PST by winslow
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To: winslow

I have known “Strong Christians” that have coverted to other cults and fake religions...or left Christianity behind all together. You can bet Islam recruiters will snatch them up if given even a small wedge of opportunity and have done so in the past. They acctually ‘target’ people like this.

I’ve seen those who come back to Christianity as well, but they do not return unscathed.


18 posted on 12/02/2019 1:12:18 PM PST by caww
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