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1 posted on 03/19/2020 8:05:09 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Son of God. Son of God. Messiah for the chosen ones.
Will he save us, from all sin. Count on Him, all to win.

hey hey, here comes the Lamb of God.

(yes it is sung to the spiderman theme)


2 posted on 03/19/2020 8:15:53 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world)
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Is this article saying, then, that Spider-Man wasn’t real?


3 posted on 03/19/2020 8:23:52 AM PDT by Captain Walker
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Hey I understand circular reasoning and false logic - but, they'd be better off dumping Spiderman and substituting the Church of Giorgio.


4 posted on 03/19/2020 8:30:26 AM PDT by Drumbo ("Democracy can withstand anything but democrats." - Robert A. Heinlein)
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The spiderman analogy is one of the weakest rhetorical tactics I’ve ever heard of.

If the hypothetical archaeological discovery of a spiderman artifact were to hold water, there would also have to be accounts of two or three dozen disciples who were executed rather than denying their hero could actually shoot steel-strong webs from his wrists while swinging from skyscraper to skyscraper in pursuit of bad guys.


5 posted on 03/19/2020 8:46:17 AM PDT by Migraine
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The Gospels are eye witness accounts... their claims were that they saw Jesus rise from the dead... that they spoke and ate with Him afterwords... and even saw His wounds. Lastly, they claim to have seen Him ascend into heaven.

They did not say this was for entertainment purposes... they made it very clear that they were telling us what they saw...

In the end, they lived hunted and persecuted lives because of these statements... all but one, dying for it... a death that could have been overcome if they only admitted they were not telling the truth.

That is far from a Spiderman comic collection being unearthed 100’s of years from now.

7 posted on 03/19/2020 9:09:22 AM PDT by PigRigger
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Thank you. This is excellent.

I tend to, without imposing my Christianity or citing any biblical passage or anecdote, I tend to take an atheist’s argument and tear it apart with fact and reason.

I would argue their Spiderman fallacy is misapplied by them with an example of a dog whistle.

Me: (I blow on a dog whistle) “Do you hear my whistle?”
Atheist: “No”
Me: “But the dog there hears it as we see it wakes him up.”
Atheist: “Yes I know about dog whistles.”
Me: “You know of dog whistles but you don’t hear them. But you believe they make sound to the dog, yes?”
Atheist: “Yes.”
Me: “Do the words of Jesus wake the Christian heart?”
Atheist: (silent)
Me: “you use the Spiderman fallacy to argue against Christian faith in God, but you refuse to use it against the effect of a dog whistle on dogs.”

Then the mean streak in me, my inner drill sargeant, will get up and dress down the Atheist shouting “You are worse than the most shameful Christian! For your thinking is incomplete and false! You are not a scientist, you are a smug arrogant lizard bent on looking down at the weak and limited, the humble and unsophisticated!”

This part of me stems from a long line of military ancestors. It can make me very mean, very warrior like. I pray to calm, to quell the temper, but unfortunately it’s in my DNA. The fact that I have a scientific mind is a gift that I must use according to Our Lord’s command that we all use the talents and gifts given to us to prosper, multiply, while seeking God’s Will in daily prayer.

Atheists at root, believe human beings are shameful things that are beneath them. They arrive falsely at believing their adoption of Atheism renders them superior to that which they consider shameful. But their powers of science and ability to discern truth are impaired by the very foundation on which they rest their false sense of scientific superiority.

They are neither smart nor wise.

Some of them are redeemable as their Atheism was planted in them by others that are lost themselves. Atheists are literally the blind leading the blind while mocking those who can bring them to Him who may give them sight.


9 posted on 03/19/2020 9:16:56 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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Who is Luke, do we have any contemporary accounts? The Bible cannot be used as evidence. Did Luke ever mention the baptism of Jesus by John? There’s not even contemporary evidence for Paul and the other “apostles” in the New Testament.


11 posted on 03/19/2020 9:52:33 AM PDT by dburt2
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Actually, the most immediate takedown of this argument is that it presumes some type of broken timeline, where archeologists unearth comics in a literary/historical vacuum, absent a continuity that can be followed all the way back to Spider-Man’s origins, along which it has always been understood that he is a fictional character.


16 posted on 03/19/2020 10:56:43 AM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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Actually, the most immediate takedown of this argument is that it presumes some type of broken timeline, where archeologists unearth comics in a literary/historical vacuum, absent a continuity that can be followed all the way back to Spider-Man’s origins, along which it has always been understood that he is a fictional character.


17 posted on 03/19/2020 10:57:21 AM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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A lot of atheists think believers believe because they (believers) believe an ancient history book(the atheist’s view of the Bible) is true. A lot of atheists seem to have no understanding that believers believe first and foremost because of the gift of faith, a living relationship with Jesus.


19 posted on 03/19/2020 1:21:03 PM PDT by MDLION (J"Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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What is so interesting is that atheists NEED "God" to NOT believe in Him.
What do those poor, pathetic souls in a godless society?
20 posted on 03/19/2020 1:24:14 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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