Posted on 05/20/2020 3:50:15 PM PDT by ebb tide
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When I was growing up in a 2 room Catholic school in Ohio, we prayed every day for the conversion of Russia.......sadly sometimes Russia seems more Christian than the US.
What Russia needs, along with Roman Catholicism, is authentic Christianity that is totally reliant upon faith in Christ for salvation. There is nothing else that saves.
Is it my turn to feed the trolls? Okay, they look hungry.
“Mary said ... From age to age, all generations shall call me holy” — Luke 1
When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold your son!” 27 Then He said to the disciple, “Behold your mother!” — John 19
“And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars... And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.” — Revelation 12
Handle snakes much?
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As I have noted in these discussions, it is usually, though not always, the Roman Catholic who first resorts to the personal attack and/or profanity when the argument goes against them.
Now, to correct the errors.
“Mary said ... From age to age, all generations shall call me holy” — Luke 1
You're going to have to supply the translation that is from. None of the major translations render the passage in that manner.
The actual translation from the Douay-Rheims 1899 American edition:
48 Because he hath regarded the humility of his handmaid; for behold from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
The Greek word in the passage for blessed is μακαρίζω. It is generally defined as: makarízō – pronounce blessed, as the result of enjoying the benefits (privileges) that (literally) extend from God.
It is used twice in the NT...once in Luke 1:48 and in James 5:11
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When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold your son!” 27 Then He said to the disciple, “Behold your mother!” — John 19
And again the Greek fails the Roman Catholic on this passage as well. Here Jesus is giving Mary to John. He is not giving her to the "church" as is claimed by Rome.
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“And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars... And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.” — Revelation
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And again Scripture, when read in context, will fail the Roman Catholic.
1A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; 2and she was with child; and she cried out, being in labor and in pain to give birth. Revelation 12:1-2 NASB
This passage alone contradicts the Roman Catholic claim that Mary was sinless. IF she were not under the curse from Genesis she would not be crying out in pain.
To the woman He said, “I will greatly multiply Your pain in childbirth, In pain you will bring forth children; Yet your desire will be for your husband, And he will rule over you.” Genesis 3:16 NASB
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You've demonstrated you know Roman Catholic talking points but you demonstrate a lack of knowledge of Scripture.
No, but I do deal with a brood of snakes on these forums.
Not to mention the woman in the revelation passage is Israel, not Mary
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Troll, why don’t you just stay away from Catholic threads?
Your hatred for Catholics is obvious with words like “brood of snakes”. Take your bigotry elsewhere.
From your first post to me.
Handle snakes much?
Yeah....get off your high horse.
Troll, why don’t you just stay away from Catholic threads?
I see you're the designated instigator for the RCs tonight.
Rush would dub you the "drive by Roman Catholic".
If Roman Catholics cannot handle the Truth in a free and open forum, perhaps they should confined themselves to the caucus threads. That way they won't be triggered....except by their fellow Roman Catholics.
How old are you, troll? You sound very young and determined to get in the last word, so give us your “Truth”.
Specifics, please. Shake the Vatican to its foundations. We’re listening.
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Old enough not to have to resort to your tactics.
As I remind you, you started this. IF you can't handle it, run on over to the caucus threads. You'll be safe there.
And yet you can find just as many (actually more) which say the greek agrees with us. The Orthodox church (including the Greek Orthodox Church) agrees with us on almost everything, so this is where your argument fails.
Jesus was sinless and divine and yet felt pain and died. Yet, somehow that doesn’t apply to Mary, just to prove your point?
You sure about that?
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/what-do-catholics-and-eastern-orthodox-disagree-about-anyway-78674
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Jesus was sinless and divine and yet felt pain and died. Yet, somehow that doesn’t apply to Mary, just to prove your point?
Scripture is clear that Jesus was sinless.
Scripture is also clear Mary was not sinless.
He should worry more about America and the Papacy.
He is on our side.
No, troll, you started it when you badmouthed the religious faith of people you disagree with, and questioned their beliefs.
Your turn. Waiting for something substantial out of you other than snide remarks.
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