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To: gdc61

“it implies that salvation is conditional and not a gift from god alone.”

Not at all - only through God’s grace can we exhibit Christian conduct. The fact remains that a ‘faith’ without works is dead and cannot save.


15 posted on 06/28/2020 12:02:01 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree; gdc61
“it implies that salvation is conditional and not a gift from god alone.”

Not at all - only through God’s grace can we exhibit Christian conduct. The fact remains that a "faith without works is dead and cannot save".

Disagree! Nowhere in God's word does it say ‘faith without works is dead and cannot save. God's grace is what saves THROUGH faith and not works. Genuine faith brings about a changed heart, a new birth, a new creature in Christ and WILL be evident in how one lives in that faith but it is NOT our works that save us - not even a little bit. It is God at work within us conforming us to the image of Christ and we can't take any credit for that - "lest any man should boast" Scripture tells us.

16 posted on 06/28/2020 9:00:50 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: NobleFree

....” a ‘faith’ without works is dead and cannot save.”.... that is so wrong. you can’t chop part of a sentence from a verse and then add your own extra words to fit your interpretation. What is “a faith” ?..... exactly where in the scripture do the words “and cannot save” show up? I’m am instructed to admonish my brethren in the faith so....

Don’t add to scripture bro.


18 posted on 06/28/2020 9:24:22 PM PDT by gdc61 (LOL not.)
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NobleFree... i’m not sure which conversation you are talking about. the statement you made...

“... only through God’s grace can we exhibit Christian conduct. The fact remains that a ‘faith’ without works is dead and cannot save.”....

Is a false statement. period! “christian conduct” is preformed by fake Christians, false prophets and charlatans every day!!

to factor in “works” at any point gives YOU glory not GOD!
and claiming that Gods gift of grace is somehow earned is heretical.

one of the worst problem Christianity today has is people walking around with puffed up christian pride and piety is one of the main reasons non christians reject the message.


27 posted on 06/30/2020 7:06:25 AM PDT by gdc61 (LOL not.)
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