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Some abortions ‘have nothing immoral about them’: retired archbishop
LifeSite News ^ | July 15, 2020 | Lianne Laurence

Posted on 07/15/2020 6:58:42 PM PDT by ebb tide

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1 posted on 07/15/2020 6:58:42 PM PDT by ebb tide
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2 posted on 07/15/2020 6:59:21 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Somebody needs to undergo a “Senior” Abortion.


3 posted on 07/15/2020 7:02:01 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Chainmail; RBStealth
For the recluses holding out for a vaccine:

“If they are experimenting on a vaccine with aborted fetal cells, what I won’t do is to say that it is immoral, since even an ignoramus like me knows that there are abortions that have nothing immoral about them,” said Agrelo, as translated by LifeSiteNews.

4 posted on 07/15/2020 7:02:02 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

If some abortions are not immoral,why would God think any abortion is immoral...If it’s okay to butcher a baby sometimes,then why not all the time????

Either a baby gets butchered or they don’t....Either it’s okay to butcher any baby or it’s not okay...Not 16 choices,padre......


5 posted on 07/15/2020 7:05:42 PM PDT by Hambone 1934
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To: ebb tide

He sounds like a lost soul to me. Someone needs to give him a Bible and show him Gods way.


6 posted on 07/15/2020 7:05:54 PM PDT by BipolarBob (The cost of abortion is a human sacrifice.)
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To: ebb tide

The only justification for an abortion is the life threatening condition called ectopic pregnancy which can cause blood vessels to burst and the mother can bleed to death.


7 posted on 07/15/2020 7:06:13 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: ebb tide

“The floor of hell is paved with the skulls of rotten bishops.” And archbishops.

If I recall correctly, it was St. John Chrysostom who said that.


8 posted on 07/15/2020 7:12:19 PM PDT by Deo volente ("When we see the image of a baby in the womb, we glimpse the majesty of God's creation." Pres. Trump)
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To: ebb tide

Rationalization to the extreme

Wheat and chaff are soon to be separated

The days of Noah are here


9 posted on 07/15/2020 7:13:02 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ebb tide

Some bishops are effectively heretical.


10 posted on 07/15/2020 7:14:28 PM PDT by arthurus (gd v v)
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To: arthurus

Who they serve is not God of the Bible either.


11 posted on 07/15/2020 7:22:16 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: ebb tide

“… even an ignoramus like me…”

Well, he got that part right.


12 posted on 07/15/2020 7:27:08 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt
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To: Paladin2; ebb tide

Agrelo would have a different opinion, I think, if vaccines were made from the cells of decapitated Archbishops.


13 posted on 07/15/2020 7:39:20 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("To see what is in front of oneÂ’s nose needs a constant struggle." - George Orwell)
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To: ebb tide

I pray this is a mistranslation and that he was referring to miscarriages which are called spontaneous abortions in medical terms.


14 posted on 07/15/2020 8:02:57 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: tflabo

This is only the case because the baby will die anyway with the mother if there was not any way to save both.

In this case the decision is justified not by the decision to take a life of a child, but that of favoring the reduction of two death’s to one death is preferable.

There are very very few ectopic pregnancies like that, but they do happen.


15 posted on 07/15/2020 8:07:31 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: ebb tide
“I have not heard Monsignor Cañizares’ words and I do not know the context. What I can guess is what would go through my head if I got the news that they are experimenting with a vaccine with cultures of cells from aborted fetuses and what I would not do is take a leap and pass the field of morality,” replied Agrelo.

“I mean that there will be those who think that, when it comes to abortions, it is something immoral, when even an ignorant person like me knows that there are abortions that have nothing immoral. Therefore, going from the investigation of these cells to the immoral, is a leap that is not legitimate,” he said.

At the risk of jumping right into Godwin's Law, the bishop's arguments sound like saying "since a few of the Jews died of natural causes in the Nazi death camps, we really can't make moral judgements on the Holocaust."

16 posted on 07/15/2020 8:10:23 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (In 2016 Obama ended America's 220 year tradition of peaceful transfer of power after an election.)
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To: ebb tide

“Approaching the woman to understand her, to welcome her, to walk with her …”

That’s what pro-lifers do every day.


17 posted on 07/15/2020 8:46:52 PM PDT by Marchmain (Hail Holy Queen, Mother of Mercy)
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To: KarlInOhio
Believe or not there was some moral idiot here recently who pretty much made the argument in favor of the people who committed the atrocities who spoke to in your last paragraph.

Spoke of them as an ‘’elite fighting force’’. Yeah. Shoving terrified souls into a gas chamber is the equivalent of storming Omaha Beach I guess.

18 posted on 07/15/2020 8:50:47 PM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: Marchmain
“Approaching the woman to understand her, to welcome her, to walk with her …”

Not into an abortion clinic!

You're unbelievable!

19 posted on 07/15/2020 8:54:11 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Marchmain
“Approaching the woman to understand her, to welcome her, to walk with her …”

"To walk with her". Isn't that what the Francis wants to do with adulterers?

I believe it's called "accompaniment", which is mentioned quite often in Amoris Laetitia, whether it be in reference to adulterers, cohabitators, homos, etc.

20 posted on 07/15/2020 9:03:02 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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