Posted on 10/19/2020 1:33:20 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
"And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities..."
The laws of the United States are now positively anti-Bible.
The U.S. joins the other "advanced" wealthy nations in being anti-Biblical and anti-Christian.
Even with the slowing effects in some ways of the Trump presidency, the nation's laws still, in so many ways, require Christians to compromise on if not simply abandon God's Word, or else face economic and even criminal penalty. And at this point, nothing but a Biblical disaster of greatest proportions is likely to change that.
So, I wonder, are there believers who have considered joining fellowships that are more separate, such as conservative Mennonites, or the Amish, or doing something like Christian homesteading as a community?
Overall, much of the church here, which is heavily influenced by the powerful, wealthy megachurches, seems to be content to compromise and retreat, becoming more and more like the world, and actually becoming separated from the Body of Christ of all times and places.
Just recently, a Christian bookseller in China was sentenced to 7 years in prison.
Many Christians in Nigeria have been killed too just in recent weeks for their faith.
Much of the church here pretends that this more faithful, "not loving their lives to the death" church, the church which grew knowledge of the Gospel in the world through its members bearing their cross, even to death, even exists.
The Laodicean church here doesn't seem to want to see or recognize much about how things truly are, or to resist Satan, but instead, to pursue peace with him for a more comfortable ride in this life.
But when you try to save your life here in this world, as Jesus warned against, out of fear of missing out on what this world offers (or seems to offer), you instead miss out on all that the Lord has for you.
So are other believers thinking about "coming out of her"?
From Revelation 18:
1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. 2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. 3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. 5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. 6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double. 7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. 8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
Lament over Babylon
9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning, 10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.
11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more: 12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble, 13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men. 14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all. 15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing, 16 And saying, Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls! 17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off, 18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city! 19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.
The Saints Rejoice
20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.
21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all. 22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee; 23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. 24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
So this author thinks America is the her in the “come out of her” passage?
If we abandom America where are we supposed to go? Some 3rd world sh*thole country? Where else is religious freedom tolerated to the extent that America does?
No, I reject that America is “her”. We need to stay and fight to restore America’s religious freedoms and respect for the sanctity of life including the unborn.
I don't think "her" refers to a country. Possibly any rich city that offers riches and fame and luxury. Gods people are to live in this world but not partake in its pagan and evil practices.
i believe ‘faith press on’ escatology doesn’t mention the time frame for the “come out of her” Many believe babylon prophecy also mean modern day united states, the time frame for these events are immediately after the resurection happens and anti antisemitism is deployed to believers and jewish people in general and is in regard to the 144,000 leaving america. Because, America will be sneak attacked by russia on the 8th day after the resurection with no survivors, europe and the false messiah will decide to take on russia along with american forces outside the united states, he will make a deal with 10 nations (remnant of nato) and with Israel which is not included in the 10. The beast of FM will ride the back of the harlet (bablylon) and come to hate her because the remnain US military wants immediate revenge on russia but europe does not want to use nuclear weapons immediately least the same thing happens to europe as the US. There is much more but i don’t think many people will believe this so why waste time. sincerely
Not familiar with the phrase “The beast of FM”.
I read this as suggesting that “coming out of her” means not participating in the ungodly life around us and not compromising our own beliefs and judgement in order to live a more comfortable life among the ungodly.
The Amish for example, have not physically departed from the US, yet they have departed from its predominant culture.
Thumping the Bible is disrespectful.
Doesn’t sound like you practice dying to self, as God’s Word says. Do you?
“The U.S. joins the other “advanced” wealthy nations in being anti-Biblical and anti-Christian.”
Babylon, the God-rejecting world.
And Third World believers who sincerely love the Lord are infinitely better off than First Worlders who don’t.
Yes, actually the God-rejecting, Christ-killing world, whose leader is Satan.
Yes. It’s about the world whose ruler is Satan. I wouldn’t categorically rule out anything as the Lord could lead believers anywhere on earth. But yes coming out of her and being separated could mean while remaining in the country too.
What kind of Christian are you?
Bible Thumper is a disrespectful label unbelievers placed on people who actually think the Bible says what it means and means what it says. We are not suppose to follow the trends of the world but are suppose to follow the teachings of the Word of God.
It's obvious how I meant it. But apparently you'd rather cause strife here rather than simply address the matters raised.
I also looked at your profile page. Is this what you believe? :
I sit in my cubicle, here on the motherworld.
When I die, they will put my body in a box and dispose of it in the cold ground.
And in all the million ages to come, I will never breathe or laugh or twitch again.
So won’t you run and play with me here among the teeming mass of humanity?
The universe has spared us this moment.
~Anonymous
That is your privilege.
It is mine to call you out on it.
An easy way to start if turning off the idiot box. Simply not supporting entertainment and *culture* infested with homosexuals, is a start.
Danny is right. There is no where else to go. We are at a point where the entire globe is spoken for.
Romans 12:1-2 has the answer for this......
Romans 12:1-2 I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.
I don't know...I'm a proud "Bible thumper"! It's a term usually used by those who disparage Biblical teaching and it is THEY who are trying to be disrespectful by pinning that label on someone. I turn it around and gladly accept the title because defending the word of God is a GOOD thing.
Thanks for the post, Faith. You have been missed.
As to whether being called a “Bible Thumper” is a term of disrespect by non-believers, well, they are already saying much worse. I’m afraid that if I shrank now from simply being called a Bible Thumper, I might shrink from what they will bring on next. It will be more than disrespectful words.
I kind of like the idea of a Bible Thumper’s Forum.
Bible Thumpers’ Caucus is what I should have said.
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