Posted on 10/29/2020 7:20:13 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
Abby Johnson – Politics is a dirty business. Mudslinging is common. It’s hard to figure out what’s true and what’s not. But one issue, another dirty business, is something that Christians in particular should know the truth about: abortion. And you know who should be pulling together to stump for a candidate who stands against the killing of our most vulnerable human beings? Our faith leaders. But instead, all we see are some of our most well-known faith leaders causing confusion and dissention.
In a recent article by John Piper, he stated that “boastfulness” is a bigger problem than abortion: “I think it is baffling and presumptuous to assume that pro-abortion policies kill more people than a culture-saturating, pro-self pride. When a leader models self-absorbed, self-exalting boastfulness, he models the most deadly behavior in the world.”
No one likes a braggart, but I’ve never seen boastfulness rip a baby limb from limb. Yet I have seen an abortion suction tube do just that. And I have seen a 13-week-old innocent baby fight for his life against that abortion instrument, only to die trying.
What a ridiculous comment from someone seen as a faith leader. And what a ridiculous justification to vote for a party that stands for the expansion of elective abortion through 40 weeks for any and every reason. Pathetic.
Pride doesn’t kill babies. Boastfulness doesn’t tear them apart in their mothers’ wombs. Arrogance doesn’t cause a baby to flee for their lives as sharp instruments seek to rip them limb from limb while they are still alive. No. Abortion does that and abortion alone.
We can’t legislate pride or boastfulness or arrogance. But we can legislate abortion. In fact, we can make it illegal. And that is what is on the line. Life is on the line. The innocent lives of precious babies are on the line. Not pride. Not arrogance.
Grow up. You aren’t voting for prom king. This isn’t a popularity contest.
Additionally, Phil Vischer, the creator of the “Veggie Tales”, released a video implying that a vote for pro-life policies was a wasted vote. I don’t consider Mr. Vischer a “faith leader” by any means, but I did find it quite ironic that the creator of a children’s series doesn’t find a pro-life vote worthwhile. Afterall, don’t you need children around to keep your Veggie Tales empire going? Anyway, not only was the video quite condescending to those of us who dedicate our lives to protecting the unborn, it was full of falsehoods. The video stated that the reason anyone votes pro-life is to overturn Roe v. Wade. That is a false assumption. Roe is one of many, many reasons pro-life voters vote for candidates who are don’t support abortion. The president has much power when it comes to pro-life issues.
Democrats keep touting the false line that under democratic presidencies, abortions are less because of democratic policies. This has zero to do with democratic policies and everything to do with state legislatures. During Obama’s presidency, the state of Texas passed a record-breaking number of pro-life legislation, decreasing abortion numbers across the state by 30 percent. Texas wasn’t the only one. Many states replicated these pro-life legislative efforts during his eight years in office, significantly decreasing abortion rates across the country.
Do you think politics doesn’t have a place in our religious communities? I’d wholeheartedly disagree. Unfortunately, we live in a society where sin has crept in and clouded societal judgement, just like it has throughout history, during the Holocaust and slavery. And abortion. I wish we didn’t have to legislate that killing unborn babies is wrong. I wish our society looked at growing children in the womb as Christ sees them: perfect creations with infinite dignity and worth endowed by our Creator.
Biden and Harris have already promised to work to overturn every state legislative victory that has helped to decrease the amount of abortions. That means no more ultrasound legislation, no more 20-week bans, no more bans of state funding for abortion facilities, no more waiting periods, no more parental consent for abortion, and no more care for infants born alive after failed abortions. No, this is not just about Roe. It’s about so much more.
This is why politics must be a driving force within our faith communities. Not only that, but God calls us to concern ourselves with government. Romans and 1 Peter talk specifically about our role in governmental affairs as Christians.
When people ask me about how I vote, I am not ashamed to tell them that I am a proud single issue voter. I vote on abortion. How someone cares for the most vulnerable among us tells me everything I need to know about every other issue. To me, there is nothing else as important as abortion. Nothing is as destructive. Nothing is as deadly. Nothing impacts us more. It impacts our economy, our social security, the morality of our society, our birth rate, and our overall humanity. If we are willing to violently kill the most innocent and vulnerable among us, why wouldn’t we be willing to abuse and harm others? If we are willing to dehumanize the most marginalized in our society, what makes us think that dehumanization wouldn’t spread to other marginalized groups? The elderly, ethnic minorities, the immigrant, the homeless? What we do to the least of these, we will do to all.
So please stop, Faith Leaders. Stop muddying the waters in order to justify voting for a candidate that supports killing children in the womb. Nothing else is more important. Nothing is more destructive than abortion. Nothing is killing more innocent human beings. Nothing is more dehumanization. And dare I say, I can’t imagine anything that must hurt the heart of Our Father more than the sacrifice of His creation in the womb. Stop using God to justify your immoral vote.
Disappointed in Piper is putting it mildly!!!!........
False teacher!
You ought to see some of the crap coming out of Jesuit publications.
I realize the the money laundering, the lying by Joe about knowing what Hunter was doing, and the hidden alliances with China are all important issues which need to be exposed.
A lot of Freepers believe that the Biden “family” issues, except for the illegal activities, are not important. However, according to the Bible, a man who has two children who are drug addicts and one who engages in womanizing and pedophilia would not be eligible to be an elder. Thus, just due to those issues, Joe Biden would not be allowed to be an elder in my church.
As I posted earlier regarding this man:
https://simplybible.com/f05c-narrow-is-the-gate.htm
We are talking about the future of America . . . a country created by God to evangelize the world. There is no room for fence sitters in the ministry who do nothing more than lead their flock astray.
There is a special judgment awaiting those who do. Just take a look at the search:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=is+there+special+judgment+for+preachers+who+lead+their+flock+astray&ia=web
Thank you. Wife and I argued over Piers article. Did he mention his own boasting would cause issues. I was pissed at Piper defeatism. Baby or boastful. I pick the baby, rule of law, Jerusalem.... Piper is an idiot and will not be supported in my house. I am the biblically called leader of my home. Screw Piper, he ain’t welcome.
Agreed.
I used to go to Bethlehem Baptist when Pastor Piper was Senior Pastor. I was there through much of Romans. It was a VERY pharisaical atmosphere, unofficially. Doctrine over love of fellow believers. In some ways that is why I went there. No one else had decent, unadulterated doctrine in the twin cities.
When Piper stepped down and Jason took over, things changed. The gal that had counseled my daughters at Bethlehem summer camp came out as being a lesbian. Yet, she was allowed to stay and interact with the girls during various activites. I brought it up to the elders but they OFFICIALLY didn’t seem interested in intervening and shielding the other girls. The young men seemed to get more and more effeminate in the way they carried themselves, dressed and spoke. Most of the young girls that were my daughters ages have grown up to be liberals now. It saddened me but I ended up leaving. Since Pastor Piper has stepped down he has gotten increasingly stranger. So God centered that everything else in society is eclipsed and ignored. That does not sit well with me.
I love Pastor Jack Hibbs out of Chino Hills, CA and his influence - Love of Christ and the Church first, but not neglecting the implications of the world’s influence.
Thanks Maudeen!
Really appreciate the article from the late Ron Graham. Gosh I miss that man!
IMHO, Piper is leading a ton of people astray with his guilt trip talk to Christians who would vote Trump because it’s the right thing to do. No Trump isn’t perfect, only Jesus is - but Christians should know better than to even bother with this sort of discussion.
Hibbs is absolutely awesome! A true man of God.
If you ever listen to Piper’s youtube channel (I could only stomach 2 episodes), you’ll notice a massive amount of legalism invoked in his teachings. Pharisaical is a good description also.
I’m not saying he’s “lost”, but he’s way off base and should stand down with his opinions over these matters - a strong public rebuke is way past due.
If there is no right to life, then no other rights can mean anything! So-called pastors like Piper are spiritually blind to the true issues of who we choose to lead our country.
Disapproving of Trump because he thinks he brags about himself too much misses the truth that Trump HAS to extol his accomplishments since the bought and paid for enemedia refuses to tell the facts to the American people. Maybe one day people like John Piper will understand what standing up for godly principles means.
I think John Piper has said some profound things about Scripture and has a gifting to teach. However, I wonder if he isn’t feeling the world tug at his cloak and causing him to think a little too much about his own legacy. Supporting Trump isn’t popular in elite circles, and whether or not Piper fully realizes it, this may be mostly about keeping his name in the “cool” circle.
Now mind you way back in the times of Amos our Heavenly Father already knew what preachers for hire .... every denomination’ would be up toooooo and HE warned what would be...
Amos 8: 11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord:
Pharisees are gonna Pharisee. Beyond that, what I hate most about these “purists” is they almost never criticize any leftists. Ever.
I threw his books away. Unconscionable. At such a time as this he takes this “stand.” Nauseating.
One more reason I could never worship under a Calvinist like John Piper. He is able to justify his madness by declaring that God created those “massive blobs of cells in the womb” so He could destroy them at His whim. They are just not part of the “chosen.” Such a crock of bovine refuse!!!
Are you saying he actually said that?
Those words?
I’m a Calvinist and I’m Prolife to the core.
I ‘m sad Piper has seemingly gone off .....way off.....but where did he say those very words
That’s exactly right!
They never criticize the hundreds of blasphemies or abominations of the left.
I always smell a rat when they refuse to do so.
Jesus wasn’t playing when He said this:
Luke 12:49
“I came to send fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!”
Rebellion & the Rebellious will be put under and destroyed - Piper is playing with fire.
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