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Why Luther?
Ligonier ^ | 10/30/2020 | Gene Edward Veith

Posted on 10/31/2020 5:28:58 AM PDT by Gamecock

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To: Gamecock

The article’s answer: “The best answer to the question “Why Luther?” is that God called him.”

Are you sure? Many maintain that Luther rejected God’s Truth and preached his own truth that rejected God’s Truth and the Catholic Church founded by Jesus. (”I am with you always , to the close of the age.” Matthew 28:20) One should consider whether Luther led many astray (Matthew 24:24)

God allows us to accept His grace of salvation or to reject God’s revealed truths.

As Luther proclaimed his own teaching, this article proclaims false statements:

1. “Purgatory was a realm of fire. Sinners burn in purgatory, much as they would in hell, though these pains are only temporary. But suffering the fires of purgatory might last thousands of years. “

The fires of Purgatory are a purification by a gradual and painful spiritual detachment of our soul from selfishness ans self-centeredness. Earthly fires cannot touch the soul. CCC The chief punishment of Hell is eternal separation from God CCC1035 When we seriously sin against God, neighbor, or self, we have failed to love God. Persistence in a state of serious sin reflects a choice to reject God’s love and an intention to separate ourselves from him. While images of fire of hell, the reality exceeds our ability to describe the isolation that comes from rejecting God’s love. The reality of the fires of Purgatory and amount of time is also unknown.

2. “Luther never wanted to start a new church; rather, he sought reformation of the church along biblical principles. But instead of reforming the church’s practices, or even discussing them, the pope excommunicated Luther. “

Luther as a priest with a vow of obedience. Luther was excommunicated for several actions in rejecting God’s Truth. https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/leo-and-luther-the-real-story-of-the-pope-and-the-heretic

Luther was an unrepentant heretic whose teachings caused irreparable harm to the Catholic Church and Western civilization. When Pope Leo X (r. 1513-1521) recognized the danger of Luther’s teachings he strenuously and patiently urged his repentance.

Although Luther’s 95 Theses contained multiple heretical opinions, the most dangerous was his rejection of papal authority. Luther asserted the pope had no authority to dispense the merits of the treasury of grace to the faithful in the form of indulgences in order to remit the temporal punishment due to sin already forgiven in the sacrament of confession.

Leo promulgated a bull on indulgences a month later in which he reiterated Church teaching, so that Luther and others could not feign ignorance. Despite this papal document Luther continued to preach against Church teaching.

I hope that Luther repented before his death, but his teaching has led many away from God’s revealed truth.


21 posted on 10/31/2020 8:56:43 AM PDT by ADSUM
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To: ADSUM

Luther restores the Gospel of Grace to much of the world. The verses you quote do not pertain to the Roman Catholic church except in that organizations twisted interpretations. I hope Roman Catholic leaders repent of their perversion of the Gospel and leading millions in false doctrines. Meanwhile happy Reformation Day! A Mighty Fortress is our God!


22 posted on 10/31/2020 9:00:59 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: ebb tide
Bergoglio is no different than Luther.

Both are/were apostates.


I disagree. Bergoglio, yes. Luther, not.

The catechism defines apostasy as "the total repudiation of the Christian faith".

23 posted on 10/31/2020 9:04:43 AM PDT by Tommy Revolts
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To: Mom MD
Meanwhile happy Reformation Day! A Mighty Fortress is our God!

Amen.

24 posted on 10/31/2020 9:05:50 AM PDT by Tommy Revolts
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To: Tommy Revolts
Apostasy a religione, or monachatus"

Apostasy a religione, or monachatus

Monachatus is the culpable departure of a religious from his monastery with the intention of not returning to it and of withdrawing himself from the obligations of the religious life. A monk, therefore, who leaves his monastery with the intention of returning is not an apostate, but a runaway, and so is the one who leaves it intending to enter another religious order.

25 posted on 10/31/2020 9:19:02 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: JesusIsLord

Comment; “It taught that the redemption that Christ won had to be dispensed by the church”

The Catholic church taught: Jesus, Son of God, was sent by the Father to restore harmony between himself and humanity that had been disrupted by sin. He came to teach and show us love.

On the cross, Jesus freely gave his life as a sacrifice. His sacrifice was an act of atonement, that is, it makes us one again with God by power of divine mercy extending to us the Father’s forgiveness of our sins. Jesus’ sacrifice merits salvation for us because it retains forever the power to draw us to him and to the Father.

Yet we may either reject this gift of grace or accept it through Baptism and keeping God’s Commandments. That is loving God, our neighbor and ourselves.

Jesus gave us the Catholic Church and the Sacraments to help us do God’s will and follow Jesus’s humanity without sin but subject to the temptations of Satan followed God’s will perfectly and taught us to do the same.


26 posted on 10/31/2020 9:22:58 AM PDT by ADSUM
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To: Mom MD; fishtank
Luther, Absolutely Not!

Let us go directly to this unspeakable blasphemy: “Christ,” said Luther, “committed adultery for the first time with the woman at the well, of whom John speaks. Did they not murmur around him: ‘What then did he do with her?’ Later, he did the same with Magdalen, and shortly thereafter with the adulterous woman, whom he absolved so lightly. Thus, Christ, so pious, also had to fornicate before dying.”4

27 posted on 10/31/2020 9:34:26 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

That site is run by a freaking Satanist.


28 posted on 10/31/2020 10:14:35 AM PDT by Jacob Kell
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To: ebb tide

ELCA, the liberal sect.


29 posted on 10/31/2020 10:15:17 AM PDT by Jacob Kell
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To: ebb tide

de Oliviera was apparently a bit of a anti-semite himself.

“Several of his articles in A Ordem from the early 1930s expressed anti-semitic tropes, including the assertion that the dispersion of the Jews was divine punishment for the murdering of Jesus, that the Jews had amassed “vast wealth and, therefore, decisive influence on business affairs,” and that Jews were among the founders of Communism. Corrêa de Oliveira wrote that the Jews, who unlike the Communists were not under surveillance by Brazilian security forces, were thus much more dangerous.”


30 posted on 10/31/2020 10:20:26 AM PDT by Jacob Kell
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Luther was much more of an anti-semite.

Glass house; stones.


31 posted on 10/31/2020 10:24:30 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Never said he wasn’t.


32 posted on 10/31/2020 10:25:06 AM PDT by Jacob Kell
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To: Jacob Kell

So you were just deflecting?


33 posted on 10/31/2020 10:27:16 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

No. Just pointing out the fact that one of the guys you liked had flaws, which you didn’t seem to mind, as opposed to the guy you disliked.


34 posted on 10/31/2020 10:52:18 AM PDT by Jacob Kell
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To: Mom MD

So the Lutherans add a new book of the Bible “Luther restores the Gospel of Grace to much of the world.” A gospel? Who wrote it?

So Christ’s Church began in the 1500’s by Martin Luther, an excommunicated Catholic priest.

So one blasphemes the Word of God and ignores historical events.

May all find and follow God’s Truth and not the false teachings by others. (Matthew 24;24)”For false Christs and false prophets will arise and show great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.”


35 posted on 10/31/2020 11:41:09 AM PDT by ADSUM
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To: Jacob Kell

Don’t we all have flaws?


36 posted on 10/31/2020 11:53:20 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
Let us go directly to this unspeakable blasphemy:

Did Luther teach that Christ committed adultery?

http://www.ctsfw.net/media/pdfs/PiepkornDidLutherTeachChristCommittedAdultery.pdf

37 posted on 10/31/2020 3:52:20 PM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: JesusIsLord
Did Luther teach that Christ committed adultery?

Yes.

38 posted on 10/31/2020 3:53:44 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Bull


39 posted on 10/31/2020 3:55:12 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD; JesusIsLord
Luther’s Blasphemy: Christ Committed Adultery
40 posted on 10/31/2020 4:00:38 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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